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[Entrepreneur Interview #17] Takahiro Kato (Faithful) – Part 2

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2026.03.17

“Leaning in closely to the vision of business leaders”
Realizing a Venture Ecosystem through M&A

D-POPS GROUP has 25 group companies that we call partners (at the time of publication).

For this article, we interviewed Takahiro Kato, the Managing Director, Operating Officer, and Corporate Planning Head of D-POPS GROUP Co., Ltd., as well as Co-President of Faithful Corporation, one of D-POPS GROUP’s first member companies. (This interview was conducted in December 2025.)

This is the latter part of the interview. To read the first part, click the link below.
https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/faithful-interview-first-part/

◆Keeping Busy as the Head of M&A

Sugihara:
On the other hand, you continue to serve concurrently as the head of M&A. Regarding the weight of your responsibilities, how do you balance your role as President of Faithful with your M&A duties?

Kato:
The pressure of M&A occupies over 90% of my heart and mind, but what takes up more of my time is Faithful’s business operations.

This is especially because I started as a complete amateur with M&A. Because there are so many buyers in the market these days, good deals won’t just come around if you simply sit and wait.

Sugihara:
How did you manage to start accumulating deals when you didn’t even have any connections?

Kato:
I certainly wasn’t a very pretty sight during my first year. I attended every M&A seminar I could find, but those are usually designed to attract sellers. However, I made a point of sitting in the very front row, asking question after question, and at the end, I would approach them head-on and awkwardly ask to become friends with those agencies.

I would also boldly crash social gatherings even though I didn’t know anyone, and gradually, I began to get close to some people. After a solid year of relentlessly repeating this process of relationship-building, I finally connected with our first deal: graphD.

Sugihara:
Looking back at your core business at the time, wasn’t it a little unexpected to take on a new industry with graphD for your very first M&A deal?

Kato:
I think you’re exactly right. There were concerns that we would be spreading our domains a bit too thin with that first M&A. When I first proposed the deal, President Goto wasn’t very keen on it either.

However, the situation suddenly changed in a funny way. One of our major clients, a telecommunications carrier, gave us very positive feedback, saying, “Partnering with a company strong in POP production would be a very interesting move.” That’s when President Goto said, “Maybe this is a good idea after all.”
(Note: POP = Point of Purchase, i.e., advertising materials for sales promotion.)

But it gets even crazier after that! It turns out that back when Mr. Watanabe—who would later become D-POPS GROUP’s Managing Executive Officer—was still at Yodobashi Camera, he gave the advice, “Starting a POP company like this will be good, and it’ll make business come around more smoothly.” And that’s how graphD was founded!

Sugihara:
Such a wonderfully small world!

Kato:
At that time, I had absolutely no connection with Mr. Watanabe. Without knowing any of that background, I proposed it simply as a deal I had found by myself. When I discovered the facts later, it felt like the dots were finally connecting into a line.

Looking back over my 20 years here, there have been many such chaotic or coincidental events, but now I truly feel that each piece of the puzzle has come together to form the current shape of the group.

◆The Importance of People for D-POPS GROUP’s Style of M&A

Sugihara:
From the acquisition of graphD, I believe about 15 companies have joined D-POPS GROUP since then. Behind the scenes of closing that many deals, you must have been examining a vast number of projects.

Kato:
Yes, it’s more than I can count, ha ha. If I were to list out the cases for this year alone, I’ve inspected somewhere between 300 and 400.

M&A agencies often tell me, “There’s absolutely no other company with conditions like yours.” For example, I set high standards, such as profitable companies with annual sales of 1 billion yen or more, and they tell me such excellent deals won’t just come rolling by. Nevertheless, we’re going to keep on narrowing down the potential candidates to only the truly valuable ones.

Sugihara:
Out of those 300 to 400 cases that you examine, how many proceed to an actual interview?

Kato:
Only a very few hand-picked enterprises proceed to the interview stage. However, I believe that the selection process itself is extremely important.

Sugihara:
Among that vast number of projects, what criteria or standpoints do you have for deciding whether to meet with someone?

Kato:
Intermediaries often ask me to provide specific company names or industries, but that’s actually difficult to do.

The current challenges that are brought up at D-POPS GROUP’s board meetings, and the existing resources we possess: where these two intersect is our criterion for evaluation. When a group ecosystem becomes as developed as ours, if you map out industry areas represented by our companies, most are already filled. So how do you look for gaps? Although cases that are too far from our areas are out of the question, I think a vertical integration model that can only complement our existing businesses is not enough.

It’s not just about acquiring the competition and increasing the scale of our company, it’s about whether or not we can imagine a specific M&A opening up interesting future developments when combined with our current business. I always evaluate a case according to whether or not the company in question would fit within the vision we have for our future and create new value in a multi-dimensional way.

Sugihara:
Suppose you do find a project that fills a missing piece or gap in D-POPS GROUP’s portfolio. After it passes the document review and you meet the CEO in person, what other areas are being checked?

Kato:
Above all, we place extreme importance on whether their atmosphere and culture match those of our other group companies. Even if the industry is different or they don’t use the exact same words as us, as long as our underlying values are the same, we can respect each other. We value that sort of instinct. On the other hand, people who take a one-sided approach to conversation from the very beginning are difficult to work with.

One particular thing I watch out for during interviews is whether they’re at a “presentation ceiling”, so to speak. By that, I mean putting on makeup to make themselves look better just for the interview. But I can see through that. There have been cases in the past where that makeup peeled off during the Due Diligence (DD) process, and the deal fell through.

Sugihara:
What specific steps do you take to discern that?

Kato:
We never conduct a so-called “stress interview”. We’re more interested in listening to each other’s dreams and figuring out if we can possibly enjoy a future together. To decide this, we usually meet twice. The first time is with me alone, and the second time is a deeper discussion with President Goto. However, there are many things you can’t see from just talking about theories, so we make it a point to have dinner together, as well.

The words that slip out when someone has had a drink, the passion they show when talking about dreams…once you finally break into those deep conversations, you will see a person’s true self.

President Goto’s interviews and dinner meetings are usually over three hours long. He intentionally takes that much time to deeply understand people’s backgrounds. While transmitting that level of intensity, we ultimately judge based on the essentially human question: “Do we want to create the future together with this person?”

Sugihara:
Among the M&A deals you’ve handled so far, are there any cases that were particularly memorable or challenging?

Kato:
Our M&A strategy is based on the policy of supporting business owners’ growth, so it is very rare for founders to exit their companies after their acquisition. In principle, our style is to have founders join our group and run together with us toward growth. That is precisely why, in the few cases where founders do exit their companies after joining D-POPS GROUP, the messages regarding the vision they’ve entrusted to us leave a very strong impression.

Even after the acquisition, I want those people to never stop thinking, “I’m so glad I entrusted my business to this group back then.” It is my absolute duty to take the baton and grow that business even further with our new partners, and I feel this responsibility more strongly than anyone else.

Sugihara:
On the other hand, have there been cases where you were forced to make a painful decision?

Kato:
Yes. I still ask myself from time to time whether we made the right decision regarding one company we had acquired, and then ultimately sold to another company.

From a business perspective—making an administrative decision, or in the sense of gaining a return on investment—that may have been the right choice at the time. However, my style is to enter the other person’s world and walk alongside them until closing out the deal, and valuing their feelings all the while. Because I care about individual companies as much as I cared about our individual stores, I still have lingering regrets about that one case.

Sugihara:
Precisely because you value people that much, people choose D-POPS GROUP for reasons beyond just the monetary value.

Kato:
Exactly. I don’t think the acquisition prices we offer are the highest compared to other companies. In fact, it’s more often not the case. However, CEOs will hand over their companies to us and say, “I’ll leave it to you.”

Because they don’t choose us just for the money, I feel the weight of responsibility for their entrusted vision even more heavily. I believe my mission as the M&A lead is to coordinate within the group to see that their trust produces results.

Sugihara:
You mentioned that in extraordinarily rare cases, founders pass the baton of their business to D-POPS GROUP and then step down. I heard that sellers usually don’t explicitly state their desire for how you should grow their companies, but in your position, how do you respond to that kind of expectation?

Kato:
Those expectations aren’t directly spoken in words. However, in the process leading up to them choosing us, I always make sure to ask, “Why did you decide not to go with another company?” Along with the details that we get through the intermediary agencies, I see that accumulation of information as the CEO’s feelings that they couldn’t express out loud, so I make sure to place high value on it.

What always gives me the greatest impression is the dinner that serves as a ceremony for passing the baton. The CEO will say to the employees who are staying with the company, “Thank you for everything. From now on, within this group, continue to do your best!” Those words are a testament of trust in us, effectively saying, “You’ll be fine with these people.” Coming on the back of that kind of moment, I feel a powerful sense of responsibility that I absolutely cannot ever betray those people.

◆The “Flow of Energy” that President Goto Values

Sugihara:
When it comes to the M&A process, has anything President Goto said left an impression on you?

Kato:
It would have to be one phrase: “The flow of energy is bad”. This is the toughest thing to deal with, ha ha. The intermediary agencies will work desperately to find the kind of deal that might only come around once a year or so, and we’ll reach a certain point. But if President Goto says, “The flow of energy is bad”...there’s simply nothing we can say to that, ha ha!

Sugihara:
When you investigate a case yourself and then propose it, only to be told such a thing, is it hard for you to accept that?

Kato:
To be honest, in the past, I really couldn’t accept it at all. Back then, I was only looking at the numerical aspects, group synergy, and positioning in the industry, but now I think I was completely missing the essential human element.

But after doing my homework many times, I’ve gradually come to a place of understanding. I’m able to realize, “Ah, this must be what President Goto was concerned about!” Nowadays, our intuitions are much more likely to align. Although, there are still some times I feel disappointed when a project I’m personally attached to gets rejected, ha ha.

Sugihara:
Besides the flow of energy, what other perspectives do you feel President Goto has regarding finances or business performance?

Kato:
I think President Goto keeps the sharpest eye on how other leaders make intentional decisions.

He often says, “A stack of blocks doesn’t grow just because one block stands out.” He means one person doesn’t need to be the top in everything. On the other hand, as Corporate Planning Head, I take pride in the fact that I’ve worked quite hard to make sure I’m not a burden to our group.

I’ve been given responsibility for practical numbers and for negotiating M&A terms, but for the highest level of decision-making that happens in our board meetings, the board members’ perspectives are also crucial. For large cases, President Goto personally holds preliminary discussions with President Naito and Chairman Semmoto to thoroughly bounce ideas off of them. I incorporate the feedback from that coordination process into our business plans and M&A contracts. After going through such a rigorous process, those CEOs and their businesses finally become our colleagues and join the list of our group companies and investment portfolio companies.

Sugihara:
After handling M&A for this many years, what is the moment that made you feel the most fulfilled?

Kato:
For most entrepreneurs, an M&A is a once-in-a-lifetime, high-stakes endeavor into which they’ve poured their very lives. To be present at such a critical juncture is truly an honor.

Actually, everything I’ve done here at D-POPS GROUP stems from an ambition I’ve held since before I even joined that accounting firm: the desire to stand by and support the visions of entrepreneurs. Now, being able to support life-altering decisions through M&A makes me feel like I am right at the core of my professional purpose.

Sugihara:
You hold the major dual responsibilities of being Faithful’s CEO and the head of M&A for the entire group. Is there anything you have to keep in mind while wearing those two hats?

Kato:
After becoming a company president myself, my respect for the CEOs of our other group companies has grown even stronger. I don’t think I would have ever truly grasped this feeling if I had remained only in charge of M&A.

You can’t feel the true challenges and the sense of loneliness that comes with being a leader until you become one yourself. Back when I first joined and was focused on launching the administrative office, the staff working in the stores sometimes looked at me coldly, thinking, “Who does this ‘executive candidate’ think he is?” But now, having the perspective of a business owner, I understand how to bridge the gap between different departments and standpoints.

I can have a bird’s-eye view of the group as a whole, while also handling the management of a customer-facing business. That sort of environment is an extreme luxury, and it’s a challenge I find deeply rewarding.

Sugihara:
In your busy life with multiple roles, how do you balance your professional life with your private life, and what do you value most in life?

Kato:
One of the major catalysts for me aiming to become a CEO was joining Entrepreneurs’ Organization (EO). Ever since I joined the company around 2007, my mentors would tell me that EO is an incredible place, and I started aspiring to get there someday.

What I learned there wasn’t just management know-how; it was something more fundamental, like a philosophy of life. “We have to face the reality that all people eventually die. How do you want to meet your end?” I often have opportunities to talk deeply with my EO colleagues about topics like that.

My hope is that at the end of my life, my companions and I can look back and say, “We really worked hard back then.” Expanding this circle of gratitude has become my life’s guiding principle.

On a personal note, I’m still very close to my wife, whom I met when I was 19, and this year marks our 30th year together. Having a peaceful family life is a huge support for me.

My personal life hasn't always been smooth sailing. At age 41, I suffered from cancer, and then developed a complication that occurs in only one in a million people. Just the other day, my doctor told me, “You don't need to take medication anymore,” so my battle with that illness has finally settled down, and I feel a sense of relief. It is precisely because of this experience that the importance of family and companions has truly hit home.

By becoming ill and learning my own weakness, I feel that the words ‘integrity, humility, and gratitude’ are finally all connected inside me. From now on, just as I was supported by others, I want to be the kind of person who can be a support for someone else.

◆On “Realizing a Venture Ecosystem”

Sugihara:
D-POPS GROUP aims to realize a Venture Ecosystem. What parts of this goal resonate most with you? Are there any specific mindsets or activities you focus on while building this ecosystem together?

Kato:
Actually, during my job interview 20 years ago, President Goto spent three hours passionately talking to me about his concept for a department store. The idea was to have a cafe, a mobile phone shop, and a perfume shop all within the same building. He said it would be amazing if they could create synergistic effects to generate customer satisfaction.

While the exact shape of that has changed, I believe that was the prototype of the Venture Ecosystem we are aiming for today.

Twenty years have passed and our business model has evolved, but the underlying desire to “create delight and brightness for people” has not changed at all. In the past, it felt like our work was about survival plus a little extra, but now we have gained enough momentum to influence society more broadly, such as through educational support. I can feel that advancement firsthand.

Sugihara:
What do you intentionally do every day to make the Ecosystem even stronger?

Kato:
Almost like clockwork, a difficult situation has occurred roughly every five years, ha ha. But no matter whether we have a serious storm or smooth sailing, I stay focused on three things we have championed for a long time: stand your ground, never stop challenging yourself, and grow at triple speed.

The delight and brightness found in our company name (D-POPS stands for Dream–Produce One’s Pleasure and Shining) can never be created by maintaining the status quo. We apply a comfortable amount of stretch to ourselves and work together to take on lofty goals that at first seem impossible. That process of challenging ourselves creates triple-speed growth, which ultimately leads to someone else’s delight and our own brightness.

To me, the act of keeping this cycle going builds up our Ecosystem.

◆5-year Vision

Sugihara:
Where do you see yourself and Faithful five years from now?

Kato:
I want to reach the level that when someone hears the term ‘direct marketing’ within the context of D-POPS GROUP, he or she will immediately think of Faithful (URIZO).

For nearly the first 10 years after joining, I was responsible for financial strategy, and in the period since then, I’ve handled M&A strategy. If I can firmly establish marketing strategy as a third pillar, I believe I can make a significant contribution as a foundation for the group. My ideal is for the next person who takes over the systems I’ve built to polish them and make them even stronger.

Sugihara:
Will the newly added service, URIZO, be the key going forward?

Kato:
Yes, I want to ensure it is seen as the key. This business, which we took over from a subsidiary of a listed company in 2024, plays an extremely important role in the overall marketing strategy of the group. It is still in the seed stage, but my current mission is to grow it into a large sprout as quickly as possible.

Sugihara:
With the spread of AI, the nature of marketing is changing. What challenges do you see up ahead?

Kato:
We live in an age where anyone can easily obtain primary information and launch marketing measures using AI. That is exactly why it’s absolutely necessary to differentiate ourselves by doing what AI cannot mimic.

I feel there is a literacy gap here similar to what we saw with mobile phones in the past. As digital becomes more prevalent, analog marketing such as mailing out letters attracts attention again, and proposals that carry human emotion rather than being left entirely to AI will gain value. It’s about the multiplication of the latest tools with human ingenuity and passion. I believe the battle from here on out will be determined by how we combine those two.

Sugihara:
Finally, do you have a message for those reading this article?

Kato:
Looking back on my experiences, my major failures leave a stronger impression than my successes. Even so, I learned from those failures, was given another chance, managed to fix those mistakes, and created things that made people happy. For me, one important aspect of this group’s corporate culture is getting a second chance, or many chances, so one can try again and again. I want to continue challenging myself without fear of failure and create new, enjoyable experiences that bring value to the group. If reading this article increases the number of colleagues who resonate with our Ecosystem, I couldn’t be happier. Let’s have fun challenging ourselves and change the world together!

Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara.

D-POPS GROUP Co., Ltd.

Managing Director, Operating Officer, and Corporate Planning Head Takahiro Kato

Faithful Corporation

Company Co-President: Takahiro Kato
Address: 32F Shibuya Hikarie Building, 2-21-1 Shibuya, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo

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[Founder Interview #5] Yuki Nakashima (HR Cloud) – Part 2
Reducing HR Workload by 80%: Solving the Three Major Recruiting Problems of Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises In Part 1, we heard why President Nakashima decided to become an entrepreneur, and the details of his journey to starting a company at age 27. In Part 2, we bring you the inside story behind the creation and surprising features of our main service, “Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager”, which innovates recruitment through DX (digital transformation). We also learn about the growth strategy that turned the COVID-19 pandemic into a tailwind for HR Cloud, and being at the forefront of AI utilization. ◆Creating a Service to Solve the Three Major Recruiting Problems of Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises Sugihara: You have a mission to become a platform provider in the human resources industry. Specifically, what kind of products do you offer, and for what kind of customers? Nakashima: At this point, we’re providing an AI recruiting agent service for small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) that want to hire five or more new graduates. SMEs have three main issues when it comes to recruitment: they cannot attract enough applicants, prospective candidates decline their offers, and they do not have enough dedicated staff. When I was working in sales at Rakuten and Gakujo, every time I talked with owners and HR managers of various SMEs, they all shared these same problems. There were almost no services in the world that could solve these problems directly. Therefore, we started with a recruitment agency business first, and that led to where we are today. Sugihara: So, in addition to recruitment agency services, you were also providing a service where robots and AI automate recruiting tasks. ◆Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager — A System that Reduces HR Work by 80% Sugihara: Could you tell us again about your main service, Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager? Nakashima: In most companies, HR staff manage recruitment using Excel or spreadsheets. They attract applicants using various platforms like Mynavi, Rikunabi, OfferBox, and other recruitment agencies, as I’m sure you know. They copy the gathered applicant information into an Excel spreadsheet, where they manage thousands of people; checking whether an invitation to an information session was sent, whether someone attended it, collecting questionnaires, sending invitations for the first selection phase…it takes a lot of effort and is very complicated. To make matters worse, they have to send emails or make phone calls to each person individually. After an interview evaluation, they have to ask the interviewer how it went, which creates back-and-forth communication. Recently, many interviews are held online, so once the interview schedule is confirmed, they have to issue and send an online URL...they have to do things like this for thousands of people. Sugihara: True, when you list it like that, it seems like a lot. How do you automate it? Nakashima: First, our system can be managed on the cloud, and it has strong automation features. Once applicant information is added to the interface, Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager automatically registers each applicant. Once registered, applicants are automatically invited to the information session. Furthermore, applicants receive that invitation on the LINE messaging app, so they can make a reservation by just tapping the LINE message. When they make a reservation, they receive detailed information about the session, and an online URL is also automatically issued. After the information session ends, the participants receive a questionnaire. On that questionnaire, if students press the button that indicates they want to proceed to the next selection phase, then the next selection invitation is also sent to their LINE. Students complete their reservation for the next selection phase on LINE, and the online URL is sent automatically. It is a system where everything runs without the HR staff doing anything. In fact, this service reduces HR work by 80%. For example, we interviewed one of our clients, BOLD INC., and they recruit 300 new graduates a year with only a single HR staff member. ☆Customer Success Story: BOLD INC. https://www.career-cloud.asia/lp/interview/bold (webpage in Japanese only) You could say that if they recruit 300 people, they must have around 1,000 applicants. That kind of scale would normally be impossible for one HR person. We also use this same service for our own mid-career hiring, and we hire 20 people a year with zero dedicated HR staff. However, there are some things that only HR personnel can do. Interviews and casual meetings are tasks that require a human touch. We built Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager with the hope that as it manages all of the other aspects through automatic processes, HR staff can focus on the tasks that only people can do. The above image depicts the various processes Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager takes care of automatically, from building an applicant pool and managing candidates to tracking the status of selection and follow-ups. ◆Why the Name “Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager” Sugihara: Speaking of which, you gave this service a great name! Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager emphasizes the “Mr. Manager” part, and your commercials also give off a highly-approachable impression. What kind of intention is behind this? Nakashima: Thanks! Large companies can use a cool name with foreign loan words, spend a lot of money on advertising, and then the general public will eventually catch onto the name…but we can’t possibly spend that much money. Therefore, I thought it was important that people can understand what the service does just by hearing it once, and that way, it can get popular organically. When people hear “Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager”, they can grasp that it’s an all-inclusive, recruitment management system. When the HR staff of various companies are talking with each other and they ask, “What system are you using?” Our clients can immediately answer, “We use Mr. Manager.” If our service’s name had a bunch of loan words, they might say, “Ahh, what was it called, again…?” (Translation note: this service’s original Japanese name is 採用一括かんりくん.) Sugihara: That’s a good point, now that you mention it. Was this your idea, President Nakashima? Nakashima: I have a close surfing buddy who is a senior business owner, and he does a lot for me. I often ask him questions about business management. When I was launching this service, I asked him, “What would be a good name for this service?” He responded, “How about something like, ‘Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager’?” He also gave me some valuable advice about my company’s name. It was originally “Roots”, but he advised me, “With a name like that, people won’t get what your company does, so why don’t you change it to something like ‘HR Cloud’?” Sugihara: I think you’re surrounded by wonderful senior business owners like that precisely because you have such a teachable personality. The fact that you immediately adopted his naming suggestions proves it beyond a doubt. ◆The COVID-19 Pandemic as a Turning Point — A Crucial Decision that Caught the Tailwind Sugihara: The number of active accounts for Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager has surpassed 1,800 companies. Were there any pivotal moments in reaching this point? Nakashima: First of all, the COVID era was a big one. Up until the pandemic, our service had only grown to about 100 companies. We were not putting much strength into sales, and at that time, we were still focusing on our recruitment agency business, so it pretty much stayed at around 100 companies. Then in 2020, when COVID-19 started spreading, companies reduced their hiring at first, but after that, they realized they still needed to hire, so hiring started to move again. The number of companies doing remote hiring began to increase because of the pandemic. When that happened, they realized they needed to manage recruitment on the cloud to do remote hiring. They started looking for a recruitment management system, and suddenly Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager started to get more and more inquiries. At that time, we saw our chance, so we hired a well-known actor to do commercials for us. That’s basically how it went, but there is also a background story. Actually, while doing the recruitment agency business, we had also been investing in our Mr. Manager system for a long time, so we were 200 million yen in debt. Then, just as we were in such a critical situation, COVID-19 came, and our sales from the recruitment agency business were cut in half. Things looked pretty bad. At that time, we were able to get a 200 million yen loan through the government’s safety net program. Then, inquiries for Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager started to increase, and I thought, “You know what, let’s bet big on this!”, and we put all of the borrowed 200 million yen towards advertising. For me, it was the biggest gamble of my life. In one year, the number of corporate buyers increased by about 300 all at once, and from there, it has now become 1,800 companies. We also placed advertisements on NewsPicks, and we’re running commercials again. In the past few months, companies are adopting this service at double the pace compared to last year. ◆The Forefront of AI Utilization — Recruiting DX Utilizing ChatGPT and Claude Sugihara: Since last year, you’ve been releasing multiple AI features. “AI Scout” for discovering potential candidates and “Attract AI” for following up with candidates. Is this part of a clear strategy? Nakashima: Oh, yes. It’s about eliminating HR tasks and turning them into hiring results. When we thought about what is necessary to solve the three main problems I mentioned earlier, we realized we must automate HR tasks, which are simply too numerous, using AI and robots. Also, regarding the problem of candidates declining offers, in the first place, HR staff should share proper feedback from interviews along with a warm, caring invitation to the next selection phase. However, most HR staff are too busy, so they cannot easily do it. AI replaces that. We developed this service by focusing on reducing HR work and raising applicants’ interest levels. Sugihara: Were you thinking about this before GenAI was really booming? Nakashima: In terms of RPA (Robotic Process Automation), our system was already one step ahead of other companies. We had many robot functions for automation. However, we had not started on AI at all. Technically, Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager sends data to Claude (Anthropic) or ChatGPT in prompt form, and displays the results. The core of this service is that we design those prompts ourselves, and we have the know-how to automatically generate warm messages specialized to lower the rate at which candidates reject offers. ~To be continued in Part 3~ Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara. HR Cloud Co., Ltd. Representative: President and CEO Yuki Nakashima Address: 7F Kioicho Park Bldg., 3-6 Kioicho, Chiyoda, Tokyo Established: April 2014 Website: https://hr-cloud.co.jp/ Finally, in the third part of the interview, we discuss: ・Crisis and growth opportunities from creating organizational structure ・Experiencing the future at CES ・Relationship with D-POPS GROUP ・Similarities with a Venture Ecosystem ・And other topics Be sure to check it out here: https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/hrcloud-part3/
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2026.06.18
[Founder Interview #5] Yuki Nakashima (HR Cloud) – Part 1
Launching a Business with Unwavering Resolve: How Encounters During My Rakuten Days Helped Me Get through the Startup Phase D-POPS GROUP Co., Ltd., made a corporate investment in HR Cloud Co., Ltd., a technological human resources company that promotes DX (digital transformation) of the recruiting process for small and medium-sized enterprises, primarily through their main service, “All-in-One Recruiting Manager”. In this three-part series, we will look at the path of President Yuki Nakashima, who achieved annual sales of 100 million yen within three years of founding his company and saw rapid growth during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as the future he is planning for HR Cloud. This article covers the origin of his decision to start a business at age 27, his time at Gakujo and then Rakuten leading up to founding his company, and the track he took to reach 100 million yen in just three years. (This interview was conducted in April 2026.) ◆“I’ll Start a Business at 27” – An Admiration for Executives Planted in Childhood Sugihara: First, could you tell us what led you to start HR Cloud 14 years ago? Nakashima: I had decided I would start my own business at 27. At that point, I hadn’t thought about the details, but I had set my goal: “To build a 100-million-yen company by the age of 30.” The reason for this is that when I was about 20, there was a senior colleague who took great care of me, and when he was around 32 or 33, he would often say the number “100 million”. I started to feel like I had to go beyond what he had done by the time I reached his age. While I was job-hunting, that goal of “100 million yen by 30” became quite clear in my mind. I figured it would take me three years to reach that amount of money, so then calculating backwards from that age, I decided that I would at least start my business by 27. Sugihara: Have you looked up to company presidents since you were a child? Nakashima: Yes, I did. Since I was a boy, I’ve really admired company presidents. An uncle of mine ran a company, and his lifestyle seemed very bold and cool to me. Also, for the first three years when I played youth baseball, the coach ran his own company, and he also had a very bold style. He would say, “Get some food, everyone!” and take the whole team to the chain restaurant Royal Host. My family was quite poor, so just being able to go to Royal Host was amazing, and on top of that, he would tell us, “Go ahead and invite your families, too.” Seeing that kind of person, I thought he was cool and I wanted to be like him. It’s like I had the dream of starting a business first, and then once I turned 20, the timing and the scale fell into place. ◆Starting from the Bottom at Gakujo and Rakuten – The Drive to Learn About Many Industries Sugihara: Did you have a specific plan for what kind of business you wanted to start? Nakashima: Not at all. Even at 27, I had absolutely no plan. The first company I joined, Gakujo, was a firm of about 300 employees working in human resources and advertising. I went with them because I wanted to work at a place where I could learn about many different industries and companies. I knew I wanted to start a business in the future, but honestly, I had no idea what to do. Even so, I figured if I wanted to get a close look at various industries and companies, the best way to do that would be a career in human resources or advertising. Since Gakujo did both, I joined them and had the chance to see many different companies. However, I only stayed there for two years. During that time, the IT industry hadn’t quite gotten big yet, and smartphones were just beginning to appear, but what I strongly felt was that I really needed to get more skilled in the IT field. I was living in Osaka at the time, but I also felt that to build a large company, I had to move to Tokyo. Sugihara: And then you changed jobs to Rakuten, right? Nakashima: Yes. I received an opportunity at that time and made the move. I had a desire to learn about various business models, and since Rakuten was a company that grew to 10,000 employees in just 10 years, I wanted to know more about their system. During my time at Rakuten, I got introduced to an increasing number of startup company presidents, and in fact, that was when I first met D-POPS GROUP’s President Goto. ◆“I Had Already Told Everyone” – A Decision Born from Cutting Off My Own Escape Route Sugihara: You started the company by yourself in 2014, right? Nakashima: Yes, I started it alone without any co-founders. Because my connections with various startup company leaders had grown during my time at Rakuten, I told all of them repeatedly, “I’m going to start my own business next spring. Please help me out as much as you can.” As it got closer to the end of the year, the prospect of starting a business the following spring became very frightening. I thought, “Maybe I don’t want to quit Rakuten after all,” ha ha. But I had already told everyone around me, so there was no turning back. Cutting off my own escape route allowed me to make the final decision. Sugihara: What did you do for your first office space? Nakashima: When I first launched my company, I borrowed a desk from HRteam. They are currently one of Japan’s top companies for placing new graduates. Their president said to me, “If you are going to found a company, you can use a desk here. In exchange, since we are going to start a human resources business, teach us how to do it.” So, in exchange for using their space, I shared various know-how about the HR business and worked together with them to help launch their HR division. On the other hand, I was able to learn a lot of things I couldn’t learn at Rakuten, such as how to build and scale a company—the things unique to startups. I think that was a truly priceless opportunity. ◆Achieving Annual Sales of 100 Million Yen in Three Years – Born out of the “Mental Strength Cultivated Through Karate” Sugihara: Were you able to reach your goal of 100 million yen in three years? Nakashima: Yes, I achieved it during the third year. Sugihara: Achieving a goal you set for yourself is wonderful! The story behind how you started your business is profound. I really feel your sense of action and strength of will. I wonder, did you participate in any club activities during your student days? Nakashima: I did karate, and that is where I built my mental strength. I didn’t like to fight or feel pain, but I wanted to win, so I had to do it. I felt that conflict every time I entered a tournament. This spirit of finishing what is necessary, which I cultivated in karate, became my core foundation even during the difficult phases encountered after founding my company. Sugihara: You have a certain atmosphere of being calm on the surface but passionate about something on the inside, and now I can see that comes from your karate experience. By the way, in your greeting on your website, you mention that your father was a company employee who worked at the same firm for 40 years, from graduation until retirement. I imagine that becoming an entrepreneur was not exactly the usual in such an upbringing, but was your father supportive of you? Also, are there any books or words from business leaders that influenced you? Nakashima: My father always told me, “Don’t cause trouble for others.” Once my company took some shape, his words changed to “Respect other people.” Also, it’s not a book, but I used to read the blog of President Fujita from CyberAgent quite often back then. Actually, when I was going to switch jobs to work at Rakuten, I also had an interview at CyberAgent, but sadly, I didn’t get in, ha ha. Sugihara: True! In those days, everyone was reading President Fujita’s blog! We live in an era that allows anyone to learn through blogs and YouTube, so we can gain knowledge from various places, not just books. ~To be continued in Part 2~ Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara. HR Cloud Co., Ltd. Representative: President and CEO Yuki Nakashima Address: 7F Kioicho Park Bldg., 3-6 Kioicho, Chiyoda, Tokyo Established: April 2014 Website: https://hr-cloud.co.jp/ Next, in the second part of the interview, we discuss: ・Their main service, “All-in-One Recruiting Manager” ・A big decision in the COVID era ・Digital transformation of recruitment using GenAI ・And other topics Be sure to check it out here: https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/hrcloud-part2/
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2026.06.16
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