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[Entrepreneur Interview #09] Yume Oki (The Salons Japan) – Part 1

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2025.02.13

Aiming to Improve Services to Solve Problems in the Beauty Industry While Supporting Two Founders

Last year, our company entered into a strategic capital and business alliance with The Salons Japan, Inc., which leases private salon studios for professional beauticians, and we began our journey together as partners in the Venture Ecosystem.

☆You can see the press release regarding this strategic capital and business alliance with The Salons Japan Inc. on the following page:
https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/the-salons-japan/

For this article, we interviewed Yume Oki, the first employee at The Salons Japan supporting the company’s two founders. (This interview was conducted in January 2025.)

◆The Path to Joining the Company

Sugihara:
Today, we are interviewing Yume Oki, The Salons Japan’s first employee. Thank you for your time. To start, could you tell us about how you came to join The Salons Japan?

Oki:
The first member I met was Director Kuboshima. I had previously worked as a receptionist at a hair salon. Knowing my background, Director Kuboshima told me, “Actually, we have a private salon studio leasing business at our company, The Salons Japan.” I felt that this beauty mall service could solve the issues I had felt were a problem when I was working at the salon reception. Because of that, I became very interested in The Salons Japan and hoped to join the company.

Sugihara:
When did that happen?

Oki:
I first met him in 2019, and I joined in April 2020. It was right at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Sugihara:
The Salons Japan was established in November 2018, and the first location opened in 2019, so you became the first employee following the two founders. Could you tell us about your current role at The Salons Japan?

Oki:
My main duties are handling inquiries from beauty professionals and managing the facility viewings that accompany them. I conduct the viewings together with President Shimizu, our CEO, and arrange the procedures up to the application and contract stages.

I also handle various arrangements for new store openings, contract writing, and tasks related to facility management, such as setting up communication devices. I also handle correspondence with external vendors and take care of troubleshooting.

Sugihara:
So, you also manage contracts! I would assume the number of tenants moving in is high, but just how many contracts have you prepared at this point?

Oki:
Yeah…I can’t even count them, ha ha. Initially, I had no knowledge of contracts or real estate, but for contracts related to our company, I can now explain the important points written in them. I prioritize communication most highly in my work. Not just day-to-day communication, I make sure to properly convey important things while empathizing with the other person’s feelings.

This is where my previous experience as a salon receptionist truly comes into play—making sure communication isn’t one-sided and staying close to the other person’s feelings. Since my reception work included customer support and handling complaints, I value using feedback to solve problems, as this is a step towards continuous improvement.

Sugihara:
That’s wonderful. Do you feel that experience in the beauty industry is necessary to handle contracts and viewings for THE SALONS?

Oki:
Yes, I think it might be smoother for someone who has been involved in the beauty industry compared to someone who has experience in real estate.

However, this is also the most frustrating part for me: while I have been involved in the beauty industry, I am not a practitioner myself. When I meet beauty professionals, I feel there is a mutual understanding that exists only between them. Sometimes, when a viewing progresses quickly, I get asked, “Are you a beauty professional?” Every time that happens, I get this mild sense of regret that things would be even better if I were one.

After all, during viewings President Shimizu often says, “I’m a beauty professional too!”, ha ha.

◆The Difference Between THE SALONS and the Shared Salon Model

Sugihara:
Now, we hear the term “shared salon” quite frequently. But could you explain how THE SALONS is different from a shared salon?

Oki:
Certainly. The clearest difference is that while typical shared salons offer only chairs or semi-private spaces for rent, THE SALONS provides fully-partitioned individual units that can be used in the same way a business owner can use a street-facing storefront.

With the chair rental model I just mentioned, even though the entire floor is rented by the operating company (as is the case for THE SALONS), the control of all sales and operations is tied to the owner that rents to the beauty professionals.

However, at all THE SALONS locations, we obtain permission from the building owners to treat each private studio like a separate salon. Therefore, the biggest difference is that our clients can operate as if they owned their own shops, and build track records as business owners even though they’re renting private rooms.

Sugihara:
So, they can truly become the owner of their own shop. In that case, I guess there are beauty professionals who choose THE SALONS after comparing with shared salons?

Oki:
Yes, absolutely. And quite a few people switch to THE SALONS from shared salons, as well. We also think there must be some professionals who wish to be independent but can’t immediately afford to move into THE SALONS.

We now offer many plans to lower the barrier slightly. However, the people who are not fully decided are probably more interested in hearing “By becoming independent at a shared salon or chair rental space, you can increase your salary” than “You can have your own shop.”

However, I get the idea that those who consider both and ultimately choose THE SALONS are often those who eventually want to open a ground-level shop.

Sugihara:
I haven’t seen any advertising put on the outside of THE SALONS’ private studios. Is this because most of the salon owners’ clients are already fixed?

Oki:
Basically, yes. While some are aiming to attract new customers, the overwhelming majority of salon owners already have a secure client base. To explain why, I’ll use the shared salon model as an example for comparison. Shared salons take a percentage of sales, and seat usage fees are in the tens of thousands of yen.

If a stylist makes ¥500,000 in monthly sales, their payment might be 10% (¥50,000) plus the seat usage fee. In our THE SALONS model, the cost to rent a space is around ¥300,000 to ¥400,000 per month. This amount is difficult to afford for those who don’t have established sales. Therefore, when they consider their revenue, my impression is that most have the confidence that their customers will reliably follow them.

◆Characteristics of THE SALONS Studio Renters

Sugihara:
What kind of people are most of THE SALONS studio renters?

Oki:
Beauty professionals generally have an intense desire for improvement, and my overall impression is that most of them have very strong personal preferences. However, there are surprisingly few clashes or facility-related troubles between them. To help prevent such issues, we set a rule that price lists and menu displays are not to be shown on the outside of our salon studios.

Also, since our salon studios are private, most are operated by appointment only, and the customers go directly to the studio where their reservations are. Given that, I don’t think customers typically wander around inside of THE SALONS checking out all of the different studio spaces. As a result, there is no competition between our salon studio renters for customers nor for staff.

Sugihara:
Are there any success stories of beauty professionals who went from ordinary employees to becoming salon owners after moving into THE SALONS?

Oki:
Yes, there are! Salaries in the beauty industry are expected to be low. Working hours are long even though the pay and benefits aren’t great, and it takes a long time to become a full-fledged beauty professional. But one individual, after having worked under those conditions for a long time, joined THE SALONS and received a sevenfold increase in income.

Sugihara:
A sevenfold increase in income?! That’s incredible!!

Oki:
It is! I was truly shocked when I heard that. Of course, I couldn’t ask for details about the person’s previous salary, but the fact that it increased sevenfold was one surprising thing, and it also left me thinking that if such growth is possible, the potential for THE SALONS tenants is truly unlimited.

Also, the use of THE SALONS spaces is varied. One salon started with a single studio space, but their sales grew faster than expected, so they hired employees and decided to rent the neighboring spaces. In the end, they expanded to a total of four studios.

Oh! And this is a super heartwarming story, but there was a lead salon owner and an assistant who rented a studio together. They both increased their sales, and the assistant eventually “graduated” and began to rent a separate studio.

The fact that someone who started out in THE SALONS chose to rent another of our studios even after attaining independence showed that they thought highly of THE SALONS’ service, which made me very happy.

Sugihara:
So, what this means from a beauty professional’s perspective is this. In the shared salon model, payments to a shared salon owner increase proportionally as sales increase, while payments to THE SALONS are fixed, so anything above those fixed costs becomes capital for their own salon. In that respect, they are truly the owners of their own business. Speaking of which, are all your tenants able to handle the business management aspect of things?

Oki:
Business management is what everyone worries about most, at first. When giving facility tours, we meet a lot of people who say, “I don’t know anything about running a business.” However, since it essentially becomes their own salon, they have to learn as they go. Of course, if they do have questions, our company is happy to provide support.

Now, one impressive thing about beauty professionals is how many of them are truly dedicated to learning. Some consult with tax accountants on their own, while others start by figuring it out themselves and then hire tax accountants when they incorporate their businesses.

Sugihara:
Does THE SALONS provide services to tenants for introducing tax accountants and such?

Oki:
Yes, we do. Tax accountants offer their services at a special rate for THE SALONS members. As for social insurance consultants and lawyers, in case our tenants have any issues or troubles, we are connected with individuals who are available for consultation. However, this is not a package deal…we can introduce them to lawyers and consultants who are familiar with THE SALONS’ services, but the contract is directly between them and the professional.

Sugihara:
President Shimizu once told me a story about a very popular salon owner who kept money in a cardboard box for a while after moving in, ha ha.

Oki:
Ha! Yeah, we do have people like that. When they first open their salons, they have so much to do that they get overwhelmed and lose their composure.

Along those lines, the rent at THE SALONS includes utilities. I think people who are busy might forget to pay if they have too many bills, so we hope this arrangement reduces the hassle of payments. Some tenants really are that crazy busy at the start.

◆Characteristics of THE SALONS Facilities

Sugihara:
I’m sure it would be helpful to have a single, all-inclusive payment like that.

Now, to change the subject, THE SALONS had opened a total of seven locations until last year. Do they each have a unique characteristic?

Oki:
First, we have one consistent, overall design concept: not to upstage the individual salons. From a stylistic standpoint, the common areas tend to be simple rather than overly extravagant, so that they won’t offend most people’s tastes.

However, while the Omotesando location was initially founded on a really simple white design, it has gradually evolved. President Shimizu often talks about a “New Vintage” or American hotel style, so while we stayed out of the way of the salon studios, we upgraded the design of the common areas by trying to add light gray tones to make them more satisfying.

Also, at the Harajuku Cat Street location, we upgraded the space by addressing two issues that were brought to our attention. Since THE SALONS houses many individual salons, many people walk through the common areas, and the sound of footsteps is sometimes bothersome. So, starting with the Harajuku Cat Street location, we’ve been installing carpet tiles to dampen the sound. Secondly, since pure white floors show dirt easily, we’ve been changing to a slightly darker color. These improvements from previous locations are used to upgrade other locations in the future.

Then there's atmosphere. The Aoyama location is below the ground level, so we added extra lighting to make it feel less subterranean, and we utilized the existing steel doors to create a somewhat warehouse-like ambiance. It’s full of President Shimizu’s distinct personal touch.

For the Harajuku Cat Street location, President Shimizu started to entrust some of the decision-making to me. I got to help choose materials for the flooring and other things! And for the Shinjuku location opening this month, we decided on everything together with the new members who joined the team.

Sugihara:
With eight locations just in Tokyo currently, do the beauty professionals at each location have any distinctive characteristics?

Oki:
In the case of the Harajuku Cat Street location, the Harajuku area has tons of salons that specialize in bleaching and dyeing hair, so most of our tenants in that location focus on bleach and high-tone hair dyeing. Also, their customers as well as the stylists themselves are often younger in age.

By contrast, at our Ginza location, the age range of both customers and professionals is greater, and there are many high-priced salons focusing on hair-quality improvement and straightening.

At the Kichijoji location, which is a bit more suburban, there are many community-focused salon owners. Many of their clients apparently live nearby, and all of the beauty professionals there say they want to continue working in Kichijoji. I feel that many of them put a high value on creating an at-home atmosphere.

Sugihara:
What is the occupancy status of your locations?

Oki:
Almost all locations are fully booked. Currently (as of January 2025), the only studios available for immediate move-in are one at our Aoyama location and two at our Harajuku location.

The Kichijoji location is completely full, and yet there are people who come for viewings who tell us, “We want to move in as soon as someone leaves”, which makes us feel very grateful.

◆ Challenges and Sense of Fulfillment

Sugihara:
After working here for the past five years, do you want to share any stories about challenges you faced or satisfying moments?

Oki:
One big challenge was when we were getting ready to open our Aoyama location, and the communication equipment shipment was delayed. We had placed the order, but due to the global semiconductor shortage, we were told the equipment wouldn’t arrive on time…

Since the Aoyama location has a basement floor, nothing could be done there without a Wi-Fi connection. The time when we had to rely on pocket Wi-Fi was the biggest pinch. Because they were small devices, they would overheat when everyone was using them. So, we placed fans in front of the machines to cool them down, and in order not to overuse them, we used every other trick in the book before connecting to them.

Having no internet meant our tenants couldn’t take appointments, they had no way to process their sales, and they couldn’t receive contact from their customers, so it really was a terrible time.

As for moments of satisfaction, in addition to the story I shared about the sevenfold income increase, I occasionally get to hear stories from people whose working environment has improved. For example, being able to take days off on weekends and holidays.

In an ordinary salon, the days when the average working person is free are the busiest days. However, since their loyal customers will come on whatever days the salon owners designate, their clients are understanding of them taking weekends off, and I’m always very happy to hear how they can finally go traveling and stuff.

Also, at one of our THE SALONS location’s year-end parties, I heard one of the beauty professionals say, “I’m so glad I moved in!” I was so touched that I even cried a little. I felt incredibly happy to realize that we have created a service that can truly change a tenant’s life.

On a personal note, securing a salon studio contract on my own was a huge moment. It felt like my efforts had helped an individual to imagine the future and solve problems, so that was also a source of fulfillment.

 

Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara.

The Salons Japan

Company President and CEO: Hidetoshi Shimizu
Address: 2F Kid Ailack Building, 2-43-11 Matsubara, Setagaya-ku, Tokyo
Established: November 30, 2018
Website: https://www.thesalons.co/

 

Next, in the latter part of the interview, we discuss:

・Changes since the company’s founding
・Changes after the strategic capital and business alliance
・The founders, President Shimizu and Director Kuboshima
・The status of new store openings
・“Realizing a Venture Ecosystem”
・And other topics

Be sure to check it out here:
https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/the-salons-japan-interview2-latter-part/

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I believe that has continuously been the source of my passion. I always hope to leave a better society for the next generation of children and the generations after them, even after I am gone. Ultimately, I want to do this not only for Japan but for all people on Earth. Sugihara: I imagine that your difficult journey was saved by many instances of great fortune and strong luck. Could you share with our readers any secrets you have for “taking hold of strong luck”? Goto: Simply put, I place a lot of importance on being the kind of person that even God might want to support. I also believe it’s important to have an unrivaled passion, to put in effort that is second to none, and to have a vision and goals that have social significance. In addition, I think one needs to have a heart of sincerity, humility, and gratitude. Even I am shocked by how good luck completely disappears when I stray away even slightly from these practices, but when I follow them diligently, then astonishingly great circumstances occur. One more thing I would add is that I think it’s very important to associate with people who also have good fortune. I feel that our chairman, Dr. Semmoto, and our corporate advisor, Mr. Fujisaki, are like sources of strong luck for me. I feel the same way about our non-executive director, Mr. Naito, and our advisor, Ms. Ishiguro. Sugihara: In your stories, you often say that you owe everything to your connections*. What conscious efforts are you doing on a daily basis to maintain good connections? *The original Japanese term connotes both fate as well as one’s connections with others. Goto: My answer is quite similar to my response about strong luck. I believe that good connections are born from making sure that positive energy overflows from within myself. In other words, from having an altruistic heart and love. And also, when an opportunity presents itself, making sure to properly convey the vision and social impact I am trying to achieve. I feel that when people are on the same page as me, our bond deepens; sometimes they support or help me; and in the end, it becomes a good connection. Sugihara: You as an individual and D-POPS GROUP as a company are involved in many social contribution activities, such as supporting the “Walking Together Hand-in-Hand with Children Foundation” and the non-profit organization “bond Project”. Are these efforts in CSR activities also based on your idea of improving your luck? Goto: Yes, that’s right. My desire to help suffering children—even just a little—is pure, but when I put my energy into activities like these, I also have this mysterious feeling that good fortune will come to me as a result. However, even if good fortune doesn’t come, I think it’s a natural human instinct to wonder if you can do something to help when you see a child or a person who is suffering. Sugihara: So, you’ve grown D-POPS GROUP to this large size through your management skills, your constant effort, and being blessed with good fortune and great connections. The company’s sales have surpassed 30 billion yen, and it is already big enough to be listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, even under the newly-revised listing requirements. Could you tell us why you are choosing to remain unlisted? Goto: Naturally, I understand the benefits of being a listed company, but my management style is quite unique, so I think it would be difficult for all investors to understand it. I’m constantly investing with a medium-to-long-term vision (I don’t worry too much about short-term results), and I devote about 15% of my time to the activities of the aforementioned foundation that supports abused children. Another form of volunteering I do is to spend about 20% of my time on the so-called Goto School (supporting the individual growth of entrepreneurs), which I convene when requested. If I were the president of a listed company, my mission would naturally be to focus on producing results for my company, and I feel that doesn’t fit with who I am right now. However, listed companies have already emerged from within our Venture Ecosystem, and many more are expected to be born from it in the future. Sugihara: So, for you personally, going public is not a goal or an objective. On the other hand, you support startups aiming to go public by offering investment and management advice. You also have a vision of building a platform that will produce numerous “unicorns”. What kind of support activities do you engage in, both as an individual and as D-POPS GROUP? Goto: Honestly, this is also difficult to answer in one word. I could say that I am available to entrepreneurs and business owners for advice and questions 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. I fully mobilize all my knowledge, experience, know-how, network, and the majority of my time for the sake of CEOs who are going through a particularly tough phase or to the leaders of growing companies that are experiencing a growth curve. And as balls get tossed into my court from every angle, I use my 27 years of experience and database to provide support. As an active business owner who has managed many companies, and now with almost 60 group and investment companies, holding Goto School for representatives from 300 companies, and other various activities in my life, I believe there are extremely few business owners in the world in a similar position as mine. That’s why I work hard every day with the belief that I must be the one to create a Venture Ecosystem in Japan. When I’ve been able to guide the CEO of a company on the verge of bankruptcy to make a V-shaped recovery, I can truly feel the social significance of my work. Sugihara: Although it’s a private company, the board of directors and advisory team have a truly impressive lineup. You have also gradually increased the number of advisory members, including myself. As much as you can share publicly, could you explain your thoughts on the meaning and purpose of this structure? Goto: Frankly speaking, I am a total expert in management strategy, so I believe that technical matters are best handled by professionals in those fields. In that sense, I think it’s very important to have many “super specialists” on my team of advisors, and I find them all to be incredibly reliable. The people we support are entrepreneurs, and as such, they won’t listen to someone unless that person has skills that are on another level. Because of this, I am always on the lookout for such people, hoping that even just one of them will join our team every few years. The members of our Board of Directors and our advisors are my mentors, coaches, and sometimes even feel like a father, an older brother, or an older sister to me. In other words, the Venture Ecosystem is also functioning for my own growth, and I am always being helped by it.   Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara. D-POPS GROUP Company President and CEO: Kazuhiro Goto Address: 32F Shibuya Hikarie Bldg., 2-21-1 Shibuya, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo Established: October 1, 2015 (Founded: February 4, 1998) Website: https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/   Next, in the latter part of the interview, we discuss: ・Success stories unique to the ecosystem ・The complexification strategy ・The “ideal form” of a Venture Ecosystem ・Venture Ecosystem Summit 2025 ・And other topics Be sure to check it out here: https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/executive-interview02-latter-part/
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2025.07.28
[Entrepreneur Interview #13] Shoto Masuda (D-POPS Corp.) – Part 2
“Serve people and cultivate talent” Aim for further growth through developing human resources and systematization! D-POPS GROUP has 23 group companies that we call partners (at the time of publication). For this article, we interviewed Shoto Masuda, the current CEO of D-POPS Corp., the founding business of D-POPS GROUP. (This interview was conducted in March 2025.) This is the latter part of the interview. To read the first part, click here. ◆The Market Environment Sugihara: It seems that the business model of selling smartphones in physical stores is facing headwinds, given the increase in direct sales by carriers and manufacturers via e-commerce, as well as the growing market in different industries for buying and selling used devices. Could you share some aspects of your strategy in this market situation? Masuda: For about the past year, we’ve been heavily discussing our future strategy. We have many excellent existing businesses. Because they are directly connected to people’s daily lives, the products and services we handle are very attractive, I believe. However, on the other hand, when you’re in the position of an agency, control and management become incredibly difficult, so I really feel that balancing these aspects is extremely challenging. Regarding our strategy moving forward, it’s still fundamentally about telecommunications. While it’s quite broad to say telecommunications as a whole, there are many more products that we should really be selling. We will expand our product lineup to include items developed in-house and procured externally. Selling core products and cross-sellable products will be one of our first courses of action. Another plan is user life design. In essence, we are focusing our discussions on what people need for their daily lives and what problems need solving. This applies to our stores, and we’re also currently exploring if there's anything we can get involved in even without a physical store presence. Sugihara: Speaking of which, how is the “Smartphone Consultation Counter” business doing? Masuda: It’s growing steadily. It took a long time for feature phones and smartphones to penetrate into the Japanese market, but they have been fully received now. However, going forward, the products that come out, such as 5G and certainly 6G, and now even AI-equipped smartphones, are becoming so complex that many people don't know how to use them. For instance, people might not know how to use LINE, or how to link their My Number card, or how to connect IoT products to their home appliances. While devices have become widespread, many people don’t know how to use them, so we really want to address these customer needs, both in person and online. Sugihara: More and more people who are not tech-savvy, especially seniors, are finding themselves with no one to consult. Such individuals can run to a TOP1 store to address their concerns. So it seems there really are people who want to receive advice, even if they have to pay a fee. Masuda: That’s right. We used to do it on a volunteer basis, but we need to distinguish our business, and as we improve the skills of our staff, their wages also need to increase. So, we believe it’s better to charge a fee so that we can serve customers as professionals. We are also developing that service and are focused on continuously improving its quality. The third and final point is education. When I think back to what we most wanted to do since our founding, and what our strength still is today, it’s educating our human resources. The original vision of President Goto, the founder of D-POPS, was to create opportunities for young people. Although I’ve taken over as CEO, we’re still holding onto that vision, so at our core, we’re ultimately about educating people. In the end, we've committed to “cultivating talent”, so I believe that embedded in our company’s DNA is the idea of raising up “leaders equipped with both integrity and skill”, which also continues to be our human resource development policy as our business grows and evolves. In 2024, I had the opportunity to go abroad with Dr. Semmoto, the Chairman of D-POPS GROUP’s Board of Directors, and I realized that while some other countries have growing populations, the quality of Japan as a nation in various aspects is remarkably high. For example, I believe we can convey the high value of Japanese education, culture, and customer-focused service. Recently, as we’ve been brainstorming various ideas, we’ve gone back to our roots, asking: “What kind of company is D-POPS?” The answer is, “We are a company that develops human resources.” To make people genuinely excited and want to join D-POPS or work for us, I felt it was necessary to grow our business domains and to help individuals grow, making them believe that joining will lead to their personal development. ◆TOP1’s Policies for Sales and Proactivity Sugihara: Personally, when I picture mobile phone agencies in the past, I think, “Purely commission-based meritocracy!” What kind of sales and customer service policies does D-POPS’s own brand shop, TOP1, have? Masuda: Whether to compete purely on meritocracy or to prioritize meticulous sales and customer service—this is indeed the most challenging aspect. The truth is, when you chase sheer numbers, quality inevitably declines. That's why the industry as a whole has seen many compliance violations. However, no matter how good your intentions, if you don’t achieve results, you won’t get support, will you? Therefore, I believe it’s crucial to combine building a strong sales organization with education of the mind, which necessitates instilling our philosophy and vision. We believe that we are a company that properly educates its people and contributes meaningfully to those important individuals with whom we have connections, so we must continuously improve our quality. Essentially, it’s about whether we can establish a foundation of trust in human relationships and then build specialized skills and a favorable business environment upon that. There were many companies in the past that lacked this foundation. Those companies sold enormous volumes. They had high transient revenues and contributed more in terms of numbers than we did, but they no longer exist today. However, we need to increase both customer numbers and sales while simultaneously improving quality. So, we are working to strengthen this across the entire organization and aim for growth. ◆New Product “OTHEBES” Sugihara: So that’s why your philosophy-driven management and training truly come to life. It’s not just about the sales method; it’s because the staff, having gone through that philosophy training, are providing a service which enables them to support customers’ lives, lifestyle, and life design. I heard that as a future strategy, you’re launching a brand called “OTHEBES” to strengthen your customer base. Could you tell us more specifically about OTHEBES? Masuda: “OTHEBES” was launched in March. Led by Mr. Sakamaki, our Executive Officer and General Manager of Sales who is also in charge of product and business development, the first phase involves Wi-Fi rental and sales. OTHEBES is a portmanteau of “others” and “best”. While we have existing stores and products, there are still gaps where current products don't quite resonate with or contribute to end-users, and OTHEBES is designed to fill those gaps. Currently, for the first phase, we’re handling Wi-Fi. In the future, for example, some people only use their phone for calls, so we want to create our own brand of call-only mobile phones, plus develop combinations that pick the best aspects of different services. Recently, a slogan has emerged among us: “Create something new out of what already exists!” So, we are now analyzing the demands from both the field and customers, considering combinations that we believe will work. Sugihara: Both in terms of planning and on the ground, with the increasing number of products, carriers, hardware, and brands you handle, and your company’s own services appearing, there’s a risk that sales staff who lack initiative might not know what to propose to customers. Are you concerned about that? Masuda: That’s why we prioritize foundational education. In fact, D-POPS didn't have many established systems until now. So, from here on, our theme for this year is to create proper systems, and based on the premise that people forget, we aim to create systems that can convey information more simply, rather than just forcing memorization. It’s all about human resource development and systematization. If a company can just put the right people in the right places and clearly divide roles, there’s no way they can fail, ha ha. ◆Soccer Activities Sugihara: Nice! I love that kind of attitude! Changing the subject completely, I hear you are quite skilled at soccer! And that you’re active in the company’s futsal club. Could you tell us about these activities? Masuda: I’ve played soccer continuously since my school days, and I’ve kept it up as a hobby even after entering the working world. Initially, it was just an in-house club activity at D-POPS. We play about once a month internally, and since I have various connections, I also play with external members. I probably belong to about three or four main groups. When we focused only on in-house members, we were always just barely scraping by with enough players. We wanted to play but couldn’t. At that time, it suddenly occurred to me: what if we brought in people from both inside and outside the company? So, we started doing that. We organize the games, inviting our employees and other members of D-POPS GROUP to join, plus my acquaintances, some of whom are former professional players. We also forged a connection with BLUEISH Inc. through soccer, a company in which D-POPS GROUP later made a corporate investment. This made me realize that sports can create such networking opportunities. *See the full press release here: D-POPS GROUP Invests in BLUEISH Inc., Operator of Industry-Specific AI Workflow “Omni Workspace” Until now, my life has been pretty much full of those kinds of connections. I attended the Semmoto Management School run by Dr. Semmoto, and there I met another company’s board director who also played soccer. That director turned out to be a high school classmate of a former manager of mine from Germany, who had really helped me out during my time living in Beijing. I really hit it off with that director, started attending the soccer practices he participated in, and that's where I met the people from BLUEISH. But I also think this involves luck and timing. If this had happened five years earlier, I don’t think the discussion about investment would have occurred. I myself have had various experiences up to now, and being in a management position allows me to engage in various conversations, which enabled me to bring this opportunity to D-POPS GROUP. I mentioned playing with external people earlier; there are also skilled individuals among my acquaintances who are business owners, or even executives and younger employees within their companies. And typically, those people also excel at work. It’s like things just connect. That’s incredibly valuable, isn’t it? When people have good character, shared interests that foster friendship, and different expertise, skills, and networks, it leads to a wide range of connections. ◆Recruiting Students Sugihara: It’s the time of year when job hunting for students graduating next year has begun. What type of student would you like to see join D-POPS? And what aspects of D-POPS do you think are attractive points for new graduates? Masuda: Our company, first and foremost, has genuinely good people. They have high self-esteem and are very proactive. They also tend to reach out to others and have a strong sense of contribution. Furthermore, in D-POPS and D-POPS GROUP currently, we offer an environment where you can leverage support and coaching for experience, skills, and networking. I truly believe there’s no better environment than this. So, for those who want to challenge themselves quickly, gain not just knowledge but also practical skills, and refine their human qualities, ultimately, we’d like them to take on management roles. We don’t really prioritize academic background. However, it’s absolutely crucial to have high self-esteem. I think it would be difficult for both of us if an employee is consistently negative. If you think to yourself, “I can’t do this”, then you won’t be able to achieve anything. ◆“Realizing a Venture Ecosystem” Sugihara: D-POPS GROUP has the motto of “Realizing a Venture Ecosystem”. What aspects of this goal do you resonate with? Are there any activities you’re undertaking with the creation of a Venture Ecosystem in mind? Masuda: I believe this ecosystem is essential for living. The truth is, people cannot live alone, and their lives definitely change depending on who they spend time with and the differences in insights they gain. Moreover, the sooner this happens, the better. I think things can change even if it’s late, but realizing things as early as possible leads to making the right choices. Therefore, I personally feel that a Venture Ecosystem is indispensable. Within the D-POPS GROUP community, there are many people whom I’d want to meet even if it meant spending my own time and money. So, I think getting to join a Venture Ecosystem like this—and even getting paid to do it through working for the group—is quite an extraordinary opportunity. I want people to clearly recognize that it isn’t enough to simply show up. How you choose to act is up to you. It would be great if a group could form where people don’t just exist within the community, but actively initiate things themselves—whether it’s asking for guidance or contributing their own expertise. ◆Ideal Vision for D-POPS in 5 Years Sugihara: That’s wonderful! Now, could you tell us your ideal vision for D-POPS as a company and for yourself five years from now? Masuda: First and foremost, the company will have grown significantly. And I believe we will certainly have established a stage where we can better support customers’ life designs and employees’ self-realization within five years. We aim to expand this both domestically and internationally. I view this as a personal mission or message for myself: I want to ask myself, from a larger, global perspective, what do I need to do? I’m currently having various discussions while considering that. I believe the execution phase for that will be this year and next, so the company will likely undergo a significant transformation. Sugihara: That sounds promising. Now, are there any challenges you face in moving toward that future? Masuda: For Japan, it’ll definitely be the severe labor shortage. I have three children now, but when they grow up, in 20 or 30 years, the population will have decreased considerably, won’t it? When the population potentially drops to around 80 million, the question will become to what extent Japan’s culture and values, cultivated until now, can be transmitted and passed down. So, I think it’s about whether we can continue to impart education, not just to Japanese citizens, but also to foreigners. Another challenge, though it’s currently unclear, is nature itself. Among the challenges I’m currently taking on, I see existing businesses, information, and telecommunications as one aspect, then personal development for individuals as another, and finally, environmental conservation. What exactly we can do is not yet clear, but I am gathering information on it. ◆Message to Readers Visiting Our Website Sugihara: Finally, in closing, could you share a message for our online readers? Masuda: I believe our Venture Ecosystem is not just an ecosystem of startup companies, but an ecosystem containing groups of professionals driven by an intense spirit of altruism. I think there’s already something you can see and feel by simply looking at it. If you find something appealing or interesting after checking it out, I sincerely hope you’ll take the next step. We look forward to meeting you directly, and we would be delighted if you could contact us.   Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara.   D-POPS Corp. Company President and CEO: Shoto Masuda Address: Shibuya Hikarie Bldg. 32F, 2-21-1 Shibuya, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo Established: February 1998 Website: https://d-pops.co.jp/
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2025.05.07
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