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[Entrepreneur Interview #14] Nishikawa and Matsutani (@Solution) – Part 1

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2025.05.28

Tackling the Development of the Next Generation to Further Invigorate Japan’s IT Sector

D-POPS GROUP has 23 group companies that we call partners (at the time of publication).

For this article, we interviewed Co-president & COO Akio Nishikawa and Co-president & CFO Yorito Matsutani of @Solution, which joined D-POPS GROUP in 2021. (This interview was conducted in April 2025.)

◆Business Overview

Sugihara:
Today, we have the pleasure of interviewing @Solution’s Co-president and COO Akio Nishikawa, and Co-president and CFO Yorito Matsutani. Thank you for your time.

To start, could you please give us an overview of @Solution’s business?

Nishikawa:
We are a system development company. Our two main businesses are arranging development contracts and running a System Engineering Service (SES).

To explain in more detail, we offer services such as mobile application development, web system development, and infrastructure platform construction.

Sugihara:
Next, could you each describe your respective roles?

Nishikawa:
My primary focus is on overall sales. I mainly concentrate on smoothly running both of our core existing businesses: contract development and SES.

Sugihara:
And what is your role, Co-president Matsutani?

Matsutani:
I am fundamentally in charge of overall back-office operations. My main areas are management, administration, and recruitment. I also handle new business development, strategy, and the management of key business metrics.

Sugihara:
Ahh, I see! A perfect balance of offense and defense. Could you tell us about the circumstances behind each of you joining the company?

Nishikawa:
Certainly. I joined the company in 2006. Since joining, I have always been involved in writing code.

@Solution was established in July 2005, so I joined shortly after its founding.

Matsutani:
I joined in February 2022, so this is my fourth year here.

Sugihara:
Incidentally, when did @Solution join D-POPS GROUP?

Matsutani:
In June 2021.

Sugihara:
So, Co-president Matsutani, you joined quite soon after the company became part of D-POPS GROUP.

You and Co-president Nishikawa assumed the roles of COO and CFO in September 2023. Could you describe how things have changed since @Solution joined D-POPS GROUP and since the two of you assumed your current positions?

Nishikawa:
First, I honestly feel surprised that it’s already been four years since we joined the D-POPS GROUP.

In these four years, we’ve faced various issues from outside and inside of our company, including project-related problems. It feels as if a full decade has passed because of all the experiences we’ve gained—it’s been incredibly eventful.

Matsutani:
For me, it went by in a flash. I can’t believe four years have already passed.

I was a cram school teacher for three years at the company I joined out of university, then I moved to Recruit before joining @Solution. This is the longest I have ever stayed at a company, but these four years have truly flown by.

◆The Company’s Early Days

Sugihara:
Co-president Nishikawa, you’ve been with @Solution for nearly 20 years. What was the company like originally?

Nishikawa:
I don’t believe it’s changed much from what it was before. The company was originally founded by just three people: President Masuda, Director Taniguchi, and an employee named Kusunoki. Because there was such a small number of people, they started out by focusing on SES and recruited workers on a project-by-project basis.

Sugihara:
So, it seems the founding members are still with the company and continue to provide strong support.

Currently, you both serve as co-president alongside President Masuda, the founder and CEO. Beyond the trust you have clearly built with President Masuda, there seems to be a strong mutual trust between the two of you, Co-president Nishikawa and Co-president Matsutani. What philosophy guides you in managing the company under this system of multiple representative directors? Do you have specific role divisions?

Nishikawa:
I think our role division comes down to our strengths and weaknesses. I strongly feel that each of us possesses what the other lacks. In addition to that, even without putting things into words, our ideas are usually very close, which I feel is a significant advantage.

Especially for me, despite being an engineer, I am terrible with numbers, ha ha. Co-president Matsutani is quite good with numbers, so I put a lot of faith in him.

Matsutani:
Since I joined later, I have a strong commitment to strengthening the existing structure, knowing that it was built by President Masuda and the members who joined him.

Given that Co-president Nishikawa has supported the company since joining right out of university, I believe the company will naturally evolve under his leadership. Mine is more of a supportive role, to ensure that direction is successfully implemented and scaled up.

So, while I do contribute ideas, I have made it a personal rule that any major strategic change in company direction must be decided by Co-president Nishikawa.

I also do things like controlling our sales, general, and administrative (SG&A) expenses.

Sugihara:
Then your roles are very well-defined. By the way, Co-president Nishikawa, are you naturally a strong type of leader?

Nishikawa:
Ha, I wouldn’t say so. I am more of a people person, the kind who enjoys communicating over drinks. I’ve been fortunate to forge many connections in that sort of setting, and those connections often seem to become business opportunities, which makes me feel truly grateful to those around me.

One such connection that has continued since those early days, particularly with agencies, resulted in the long-term contracts we’ve received from Hakuhodo Group.

Matsutani:
But that’s just one example. In fact, the majority of our in-house project contracts are the result of an introduction from Co-president Nishikawa. To put it in pure sales terms, approximately 40% of our sales come from his connections and referrals.

◆“Developing the Next Generation”

Sugihara:
No matter how advanced the technology, in the end, it’s essential to have people on your side. Now, I’d like to ask a little about your business. Could you explain your management philosophy, “Developing the Next Generation”?

Nishikawa:
This concept was originally devised by President Masuda.

When the company was founded in July 2005, the IT industry had just finished weathering the bubble of the early 2000s. It was the dawn of what was called Web 2.0, a time when services and people were beginning to connect around the world.

As much as the job of a programmer can be seen as cool or popular now, the prevailing image back then was much more “geeky”.

At the time, President Masuda felt strongly that the age of IT was coming soon, and that it would be necessary to learn technical skills. The ultimate goal was to foster talent so that even if they moved on from @Solution to another company, they would be globally employable because they had a solid foundation in basic IT skills. This desire to educate and nurture talent is the core idea behind our management philosophy, “Developing the Next Generation”.

◆Current Business Focus

Sugihara:
So, your management philosophy is about fostering the next generation of professionals.

Which business area are you currently focusing on the most?

Nishikawa:
We are currently in a period of transition. We are strongly committed to leading the way in AI utilization, creating new AI-related businesses, and providing support services. Our focus is shifting from simply accepting contracts or outsourcing personnel through SES to concentrating on how we can utilize AI to create new systems and structures.

Matsutani:
I’d say the same thing, but I’d add that our current main focus is on finding contracts for dedicated development teams (DDT). We concentrate on providing smooth operation, maintenance, and development by having customers who already have an app or service switch to us from their original development provider. We’ve been focusing on this since last year.

Moving forward from there, with the growing trend of AI utilization, our goal is to first use AI internally to boost efficiency and understand the underlying mechanisms. Then, we can proactively propose to our clients how to best implement AI within their applications or even how AI can be used to optimize the overall efficiency of their entire company, not just the users of their apps. We want to continuously increase the value we provide in this way.

Sugihara:
As generative AI becomes increasingly sophisticated, some people are saying that the engineering profession will become obsolete. What are your thoughts on this?

Nishikawa:
When ChatGPT was released, it was about two and a half years ago, right? Honestly, at that time, I was pretty depressed. Thinking that the industry—and my own job—might eventually disappear made me feel extremely pessimistic.

However, my perspective has recently shifted. Now, I’m focused on figuring out how to use such tools effectively from an engineering standpoint, since they already exist.

No matter which generative AI you use, you have to get used to such technology in order to utilize it well. We believe that we are the ones who can come alongside and support those who are unfamiliar with it, so we are going to continue devising methods of doing that.

(To be continued)

Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara.

@SOLUTION

Co-president & CEO: Katsuto Masuda
Co-president & COO: Akio Nishikawa
Co-president & CFO: Yorito Matsutani
Address: 32F Shibuya Hikarie, 2-21-1 Shibuya, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo
Established: July 2005
Website: https://atmarksol.jp/

Next, in the latter part of the interview, we discuss:

・Greatest strengths and features
・Recruitment
・“Realizing a Venture Ecosystem”
・5-year vision and challenges associated with that
・And other topics

Be sure to check it out here:
https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/atmarksol-interview-latter-part/

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Sugihara: Back-office staff departments like accounting and HR, which don’t have direct customer contact, are also certainly vital. Do you have ways of highlighting them within your company? Yamashita: We do have a Monthly MVP program, where the person who shone the brightest that month is selected from each division or department. About 15 candidates are selected for the Monthly MVP across the entire company. From those, we decide on one person each for the top sales award, the division MVP, and the Plust Monthly MVP. The final award recipients receive a certificate of commendation and a bonus, and the results are also publicized externally on our social media platforms like Instagram. Our public relations team makes sure these social posts are written so that when the employees, their family, or friends see them, they can feel like they are doing good work and being successful. In June, the information systems team leader, who responds to everyone with system-related questions every day and even worked on weekends to handle our recent head office relocation, was the company-wide MVP. Sometimes the MVP is the top salesperson with an overwhelming lead, and sometimes it’s a support staff member who received high praise from customers. It’s different every time. ◆Origin of the Company Name Sugihara: I’m glad to hear about such positive initiatives. Moving on to the next question. The mission and values page on your website explains the origin of your company name, and it’s quite impressive. The circles of “PLan”, “Unique”, and “Solution” are all encompassed by the foundational circle of “Trust”. As your customer feedback suggests, it seems that all of Plust’s employees work to build a strong relationship of trust with your customers. Could you elaborate on this philosophy? Yamashita: “Plan” refers to a total commitment to providing plans aligned with the customer’s perspective. “Unique” means offering proposals to customers out of our own originality. “Solution” means solving the problems that customers face. By fully committing to these three initials—PLUS—we ultimately aim to win the “Trust” of our customers. That’s the full meaning behind our company name. This has been the case since our establishment. Although I mentioned earlier that we were working every day without deeply internalizing it, our philosophy itself was actually always there. However, when trying to integrate those ideals into our daily operations, there was a large gap between the stated ideal and the reality on the ground at the time. I was a less mature manager then and couldn’t successfully connect the two. Sugihara: So the meaning of the company name was decided at the time of its founding. Have the mission and philosophy remained the same since then? Yamashita: The core foundation of our ideology hasn’t changed, but our mission, vision, values, and their verbalization were discussed and finalized over about six months, approximately three years ago, with Masaki and the heads of each division working together. To create something that could lead to the realization of our values, leaders from different roles gathered and created it, compiling it into a brand book. When deciding on the values, we turned ideas like, “Everyone at Plust often uses this kind of language” or “This really feels like us” into written statements. Masaki: That’s right. Even if we had a vague doctrine in the beginning, no one was really looking at it or striving for it. But as the number of people grew, we realized that wasn’t sustainable. President Yamashita provided the opportunity, and we undertook a project to create our philosophy and mission. We established these principles by asking “What are the things that Plust must value?” and “How can we maintain Plust as the foundation for everyone’s happiness?”, and then we made those our permanent motifs by preserving them in the form of a brand book. Since our brand book was created, it’s become easier to convey our values to new recruits. We can show them the brand book and say, “This is what we aim for”, and communicate that we only want people who resonate with this to work at Plust. In terms of recruitment, we have people who apply because they saw our philosophy, mission, vision, and our five values and felt an affinity for them. ◆Local Area Sustained Support Project Sugihara: I can see the history of your extensive social contribution activities on your website, with a cumulative total of about 40 million yen. What was the thinking behind these donations and support activities? Yamashita: We call these activities our Local Area Sustained Support Project. Now, this might not be the best way to say it, but the work that we do from day to day could be described as the “ultimate repetition”. It involves sales activities, carefully setting appointments, enthusiastically negotiating, providing solid support, and satisfying customers with website production. However, I believe that if there is a greater cause, or if we can feel that the work we do every day is useful to society and contributes to someone’s happiness, we can approach the tasks at hand with a more earnest attitude. Also, emotionally speaking, doesn’t it feel good when someone thanks you for your work? While our contributions may be very small, we hope that through donations and activities, we feel we are helping those in need even a little bit. That being said, our mindset is a little bit different from those involved in purely voluntary work, in the following sense. We feel good if we can make someone happy, even a little, but it wouldn’t be right if making that person happy meant reducing our business profits and effectiveness. If we could generate solid profits and also contribute to the world at the same time, that would be pretty cool, since people usually assume you can only achieve one or the other. If you look at it that way, it makes sense for us to commit to doing both. We want to generate solid profits, give back to employees through their salaries, and contribute to society while growing the business. Then no one would be able to complain about our company, so we want to continue these types of activities as long as possible. Sugihara: That’s a wonderful plan. Now, onto the next question. You moved your head office in May this year, so what was the concept behind the design of the new office? Yamashita: This was a head office expansion and renovation within the same building, the first in 11 years. Since we have sales offices all over Japan, I wanted a space that truly felt like, “Now, this is where the headquarters are!” We discussed the interior design extensively with the contractors and paid close attention to every detail, not just because we wanted it to be stylish or cool, but because we wanted it to reflect our ideology and brand book. We spoke with various contractors to create it, and because we plan to use it for a long time, we wanted an atmosphere that wasn’t overly flashy—a bright office with good energy that people would want to commute to. One that is calm and somehow exudes trust. We have to perform a lot of stressful tasks every day, so we wanted an environment that would offer our employees a moment of healing when they’re at our headquarters, facilitate brainstorming, and not become tiresome over time. ◆A Decision for the Sake of Growth Sugihara: Thank you. By the way, you decided to join D-POPS GROUP last fall. It’s easy to imagine that Plust, being such an excellent company, was receiving numerous M&A offers at the time. What was the main factor in your decision to join D-POPS GROUP from among those? Yamashita: I think it was ultimately President Goto. I met many other truly excellent people, including CEOs and executive members of publicly-listed companies, who would talk about how they wanted our group to be or what field they wanted us to be active in…but they rarely asked what I or Plust wanted to do. I told Masaki this before, but as the founder who started the company, joining any group—even a large corporation—was not an easy decision for me. Furthermore, I felt that if I were to make that decision, it had to be a partnership that would genuinely lead to a brighter future for Plust and all the employees working in the company. President Goto was the only one who focused on asking, “What do you want to do going forward, President Yamashita?” I was very pleased that he prioritized hearing my intentions first. I told him that I wanted to grow further as a manager, and I wanted the company to develop even more to realize its values. I then shared what I was thinking and what I anticipated our future challenges might be. As we met several times and had meals together, President Goto told me, “We will continue to entrust the management of Plust to your leadership, President Yamashita. We intend for D-POPS GROUP to essentially be a cheerleading squad, supporting Plust’s development and the flying leap that you and your team are aiming for.” That statement was huge for me, and it gave me a strong vision of working together in the future. Because of this, I was almost fully decided on moving forward with President Goto and D-POPS GROUP. Then, I went to dinner with Masaki, shared my thoughts on joining the group and my future plans, and he also agreed. We informed our employees after September’s accounting was closed, so it was around October. We explained it in about seven phases. Sugihara: Senior Managing Director Masaki, what did you think when President Yamashita told you about joining the group? Masaki: When President Yamashita first told me about it, our company had been growing in size, and we were reaching a point where we had to consider how to continue for many more years on our own. President Yamashita was already contemplating various things. When he suddenly told me the plan, I recognized that joining this group was the optimal solution for resolving the various issues that would inevitably arise. I was convinced after hearing all the details. Also, even up to now, whenever President Yamashita approves someone, or should I say is impressed by someone, they are generally wonderful people, so I trusted that this was not a mistake. At the time, I hadn’t met President Goto yet, but I wasn’t worried about that aspect at all. Sugihara: On the night of the signing day for joining the group, there was a charity party hosted by D-POPS GROUP’s Chairman Semmoto, and both you and President Yamashita attended, right? Masaki: That’s right. I was working at the Saitama office when I got a call telling me to come to Nihombashi immediately, ha ha. I left for Nihombashi right away, while wondering to myself whether it was really such an amazing party that I had to drop everything. When I arrived, every single one of the participants were truly remarkable people, and it was great to attend such a fantastic event and hear such valuable stories. ◆“Realizing a Venture Ecosystem” Sugihara: D-POPS GROUP’s aim is “realizing a Venture Ecosystem”. What parts of this goal do you resonate with? Do you have any shared mindsets or activities aimed at creating this Venture Ecosystem together? Yamashita: When it comes to Venture Ecosystems, Plust currently has three group companies, so we kind of have our own small-scale Venture Ecosystem. By working together on things, we are experiencing the generation of synergy that transcends the borders between divisions. For example, our website support members sell security products (OA equipment), or we generate referrals when we encounter a company that wants to build a website. When I consider that such things are happening across divisional boundaries, I deeply resonate with the Venture Ecosystem that D-POPS GROUP is trying to create. Even just by having invoices that previously went externally now circulate within the group, money flows better, and we may even see the creation of new businesses. Even our own management team thinks that this system is a good way for our company to survive without collapsing. ◆5-Year Vision Sugihara: Thank you. What is your 5-year vision for Plust? Yamashita: In any case, we want to see, even more than today, people who are glad they work at Plust. I view sales as a means, not an end, so I honestly don’t have a strong focus on reaching a specific target for profit or business structures. However, I’ve always paid special attention to the idea that both myself and everyone I work with must continue to embody our value of “newest is best”. Five years from now, rather than raising a glass over glorious memories from the past, saying “Those were the good old days” or “I was amazing back then”, I want us to have taken on lots of challenges, and piled up more failures as well, and then with more employees than before, say with a smile, “We, right now, are the best Plust has ever been!” Sugihara: Then, in order to reach this future where all your employees and stakeholders feel happy, what challenges and efforts do you think you’ll have? Masaki: In the same way that we’ve been running this company for the past 20 years, we don’t think too much about the future, and I mean that in a good sense. Our thinking is that we shouldn’t be focused on the past or the future, but on how things are right now, and if things now aren’t the best, that’s not acceptable. So, I don’t think it’s good to look too far ahead, and we should definitely not dwell on the past. What we see today is the result of building up year by year, while being conscious of whether we are happy right now and whether this is the best we’ve ever been. Obviously, as managers, we have to think about the next five years, but we don’t have many numerical targets. I can say one thing, though, which is that we want to continuously update our performance record every year as much as possible. Yamashita: Actually, there was a period when we created five-year and ten-year plans, but unexpected events like the Lehman Shock, the Great East Japan Earthquake, the COVID-19 pandemic, and the Noto Peninsula Earthquake kept occurring every few years, meaning plans didn’t go as intended. From that experience, I’ve come to feel over these 21 years that, although it’s not glamorous, dedicating ourselves to doing our best and building up day by day is ultimately the shortest path to a bright future. ◆Message to Readers Visiting Our Website Sugihara: Finally, could you each offer a closing message to the readers visiting our website? Yamashita: I will speak to entrepreneurs who might be considering joining our group. I think many founders like me, who have run their companies for years on their own, might have resistance to joining a group in the middle of leading their own companies. I also struggled internally with that same sense of reluctance, but D-POPS GROUP really allows me to continue leading my company. In addition, they act like a cheerleading squad, supporting us strongly from behind, and aid in the growth of our company. So, if anyone is considering joining, I think it’s worth having a conversation. Also, when more excellent people join the group, it stimulates us, making things even more interesting. So, if fate brings us together, please don’t hesitate to reach out! Masaki: After joining D-POPS GROUP, they have such amazing leaders and advisors, so being able to receive valuable advice from them is an unprecedented benefit for us.   Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara.   PLUST.Co.,Ltd. Company President and CEO: Tomoyoshi Yamashita Address: 20F and 24F Meiji Yasuda Life Insurance Saitama Shintoshin Bldg., 11-2 Shintoshin, Chuo-ku, Saitama, Saitama-ken Established: October 22, 2004 Website: https://www.plust.jp/
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