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[Entrepreneur Interview #17] Takahiro Kato (Faithful) – Part 1

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2026.03.12

“Leaning in closely to the vision of business leaders”
Realizing a Venture Ecosystem through M&A

D-POPS GROUP has 25 group companies that we call partners (at the time of publication).

For this article, we interviewed Takahiro Kato, the Managing Director, Operating Officer, and Corporate Planning Head of D-POPS GROUP Co., Ltd., as well as Co-President of Faithful Corporation, one of D-POPS GROUP’s first member companies. (This interview was conducted in December 2025.)

◆Journey to Joining the Company

Sugihara:
Thank you for agreeing to this interview, Mr. Kato!

I understand you joined the company in August 2006. Could you tell us about your career up to that point and the circumstances that led to you joining?

Kato:
My previous job was at an accounting firm in Sendai, where I worked as a financial consultant. I was responsible for supporting the establishment of medical corporations and the opening of medical malls. I worked like crazy there for about five years.

At the time, the company had a compensation structure where performance was directly reflected in your salary. Despite being in a regional city and being only 23 years old, I was earning an annual income of about 5 million yen. Given the price levels of 20 years ago, that was quite exceptional treatment.

However, because I started earning so much at a young age, before I knew it, the focus of my attention shifted from the customers to my own income. I started prioritizing what benefitted me most, thinking things like, “I can get this customer to sign for this amount of insurance.” I think I had become conceited.

Around that time, a mentor who had been very kind to me since my days as a part-time student worker went independent and started his own business. That CEO became my client, with an attitude of “If Kato is going to do his best on this, count me in.” However, I ended up getting promoted later, and in my new position, I no longer directly handled his account, so I became emotionally detached. After a while, his business stalled, and he had to close it down.

Back when I first started learning bookkeeping in an ordinary high school, I had the pure ambition of becoming someone who helps out CEOs in the future. And yet, I failed to notice the changes in my dear mentor’s situation due to my shortsighted desire for personal gain. I was tormented by intense regret, realizing this was the result of my own arrogance.

I thought to myself, “Rather than supporting a president from afar as an external consultant, what if I could support a single company president and scale a business even more if I became his or her right-hand man?”, and began looking to change jobs.

Sugihara:
Is that when you met President Goto?

Kato:
Yes. At the time, I was interviewing with two companies: D-POPS and one other.

The other company wanted me to join immediately after giving me an offer. However, I was still living in Sendai at the time, and it was right before my daughter was to be born. I told them I absolutely needed them to wait three months, but they declined, saying that would be difficult.

President Goto, on the other hand, was different. When I honestly explained my circumstances, he said, “I understand. I’ll wait three months.” Moved by the depth of his character, I decided to join D-POPS.

What I still haven’t forgotten to this day is the intensity of the interviews. I went through two rounds, and President Goto handled both of them personally. Each one lasted over three hours—more than six hours in total—listening to my future goals and feelings while I shared what I could contribute. It was precisely because of that dense, meaningful dialogue that I felt certain I wanted to make a fresh start under this man.

◆D-POPS in the Early Days

Sugihara:
Three hours! That’s incredible. What was your role when you joined in 2006?

Kato:
My role back then was defined as “taking charge of general back-office operations”. I was hired into the administrative office with the potential of becoming an executive staff, but when I actually started, I was shocked by the state of things, ha ha.

For example, I was solely responsible for collecting sales proceeds from all the stores. At that time, installment sales (loans) weren’t common yet, so millions of yen in cash accumulated in each store’s safe every day. I spent my days going from store to store, collecting the cash, carrying it to the nearest ATM, and depositing it day by day so we could track it later. After visiting five or six stores, it would be evening. I’d return to the office and spend the rest of the day reconciling cash and handling the accounting.

The atmosphere of the organization was like a battlefield. I had the feeling that in order for us to survive, I needed to produce results even if it meant knocking the neighboring competitors out of commission. It didn’t matter if you were a full-time employee, a part-timer, or a dispatch worker…everyone was simply chasing the number of units sold—in other words, sales—right in front of them. It was that kind of time.

Sugihara:
The management system also must have been completely different from what it is now.

Kato:
Quite so. At that time, attendance was confirmed through a system where store staff would send a fax to the head office when they arrived at work. Outside of this system, we couldn’t even tell if a particular store was open. Occasionally, the head office would receive calls from customers asking, “Why isn’t the store open today?”, ha ha.

Later, we introduced an IT system, but then some staff started clocking in remotely from outside the stores. We realized that it wasn’t any use to just make sure our employees were clocking in.

Next, we tried a method where staff had to answer a company philosophy-related quiz every morning using the stores’ fax machines. However, some clever people tried to cheat by programming the fax machines to send it at a set time. It was a constant game of cat-and-mouse with fraudulent access and time-card tampering, so we needed to rethink the entire system from the ground up.

Sugihara:
How did the organization transform into what it is today?

Kato:
I think the big change started around 2007 or 2008 when we began hiring new graduates. We shifted away from a culture where “anything goes as long as you hit your numbers”. As educated new graduates joined, the organizational consciousness flipped completely. Looking back, that was the major turning point.

Sugihara:
Did your own mindset change, too? When did that happen?

Kato:
Yes, there was a significant shift that changed my outlook on life. For a long time, whenever President Goto visited banks to report on our management status, he would always use the words ‘sincerity’, ‘humility’, and ‘gratitude’. To be honest, at the time, they sounded like nothing more than magic words to me. But after being in contact with this organization for so many years, I’ve truly internalized those words and come to agree with them deeply.

◆Building the Organizational Foundation

Sugihara:
Before the transition to group management in 2017, you reportedly handled all sorts of tasks as Corporate Planning during the D-POPS era.

Kato:
Yes. For about ten years before we moved into M&A in earnest, I spent all my time running around to build the organization’s foundation. At the time, we didn’t even have a contract with a labor and social security attorney, and labor management was essentially handled by President Goto’s mother. So, I started by switching those tasks to a professional system.

I also worked on eliminating time lags in cash management to visualize cash flow and created a performance management system that didn’t exist before. I set up the data needed for management decisions one by one, such as calculating precise figures per individual store including seasonal factors and managing store-specific profit and loss (P&L).

Sugihara:
Without such meticulous system design, managing at the current scale would be impossible.

Kato:
You’re absolutely right. However, while organizing the systems, what I always valued was the heat and passion of the front lines—what we call our store staff’s “empathy-driven customer service”. Right after I joined, I had a one-week orientation where President Goto and I visited every single store together. We would stand in front of a store for about an hour, watching the staff interact with customers, and then discuss it.

President Goto told me, “That store manager’s numbers might be average, but they enjoy such overwhelming feedback from their customers. Look, the customers are leaving with such smiles. The shape of the smile differs by store, but that is the strength of D-POPS.”

He taught me not just to manage numbers, but encouraged me to feel the temperature of our stores and the bonds with customers firsthand. I think it was because of that experience, I was able to focus on creating organizational management systems that were heart-led, rather than creating systems just to control people.

Sugihara:
Were you ever directly involved in the actual business operations at those stores?

Kato:
To accurately understand store operations, I spent only two weeks at one site. After understanding the work flow and what problems they encounter there, I returned to my duties at the head office.

Although I was in the administrative office when I joined, my proposals were often planning-oriented, and I was frequently asked for creative improvements. I was given the advice: “Change your title to ‘Corporate Planning’, get out there, and make things move more.” From that point on, I’ve been working in Corporate Planning for around ten years now.

◆The Start of M&A Strategy and Meeting Faithful Corporation

Sugihara:
You were appointed as the President of Faithful in 2017. What led up to this?

Kato:
Around 2015 to 2016, just as D-POPS GROUP reached 10 billion yen in sales, we faced a massive headwind due to changes that were made to the sales rules within the telecommunications industry. It was our second time to experience a crisis of that scale, resulting in a 100-million-yen deficit in just three months.

At that time, the executive members decided that instead of going on the defensive, we should show a challenging spirit. Each of us stepped into new domains. Mr. Hori, who had been in charge of HR, took the lead as the CEO of Good Crew. Mr. Iwama became the CEO of Gnext, which we had acquired through M&A. Mr. Fujita established Advancer, and Mr. Hosaka founded STAR CAREER. The executive staff of that era began making big moves.

Amidst that, I was entrusted with being responsible for M&A.

Sugihara:
Was this shift towards M&A strategy necessary?

Kato:
Yes, it was a natural progression for the head of Corporate Planning to take charge of M&A. President Goto had been saying for a while that he wanted to pursue M&A, and there was a sense of urgency, that we wouldn’t be able to dramatically increase our growth trajectory only through businesses built up using internal resources alone (i.e., organic growth). It was difficult to work backward from our growth goals based on a labor-intensive model. So, we decided to make M&A a central pillar of our growth strategy.

In fact, this Faithful Corporation was one of the companies I acquired while serving as the head of M&A.

Sugihara:
So, you became the representative of the very company you decided to acquire?

Kato:
Yes. Our first M&A deal was a company called graphD, and the second company we acquired was Faithful. Since I was the one who proposed and pushed for the acquisition, I took it upon myself to steer the ship afterward. That is how I became its President.

Sugihara:
It sounds like the very structure of D-POPS GROUP changed radically between 2015 and 2016.

Kato:
Exactly. That was when our current group management platform was built.

Sugihara:
You mentioned Faithful was the second company you acquired. What sort of business were they doing at the time?

Kato:
Actually, that business had to pivot just a few months after we acquired them.

Initially, Faithful’s main business was article production outsourcing. However, right at that timing, society was starting to question the reliability of curated media, which sent shockwaves through the entire industry. We were caught in the middle of that storm, and the articles we were handling came under fire.

We found ourselves in a situation where we couldn’t continue the core business that accounted for 70% to 80% of our revenue, and we plunged into a massive deficit. Normally, one might give up and conclude that the M&A was a failure, but if we had retreated then, we wouldn’t have been able to make our next move. So, we decided to cut off the unprofitable old business and aim for a recovery.

◆Building a Sustainable BtoB Model

Sugihara:
How did you go about rebuilding the company into its current business from that point?

Kato:
The business as it stands today was not something we inherited from the acquisition…it was built completely from scratch.

At the time, D-POPS GROUP’s non-executive director, President Naito of Findstar GROUP Co., Ltd., gave us the following advice at a board meeting: “If you slightly shift your existing business model, you will find new business opportunities.” So, we asked ourselves, “Besides selling mobile phones in physical stores, what are we capable of doing?” Then, we decided to pivot entirely to communication consulting targeted at corporations.

While launching this new business, I was handling bank relations as an executive staff of D-POPS GROUP. There was an expectation from those around me not to exhaust the staff working on-site, and to create a sustainable business. I came up with the idea of a model that utilized banks as referral partners, and figured that would be the best. I proposed this to the banks, and they thankfully agreed to help introduce us to other companies.

◆Thoughts on the Strengths of Faithful and His Colleagues

Sugihara:
If you had to describe Faithful’s current business in one sentence, what would it be?

Kato:
In short, we support small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs). We had originally taken over a media business, but we steered it to build the current consulting model that solves the challenges of SMEs in an entirely new way.

Sugihara:
Among the many consulting firms out there, what are Faithful’s strengths?

Kato:
Our overwhelming strength is definitely that since our staff—who have years of experience in mobile phone shops—provide the consulting proposals, we can put all that know-how to good use. Other companies selling office automation (OA) equipment to corporations tend to just sell the products, but the relationship ends there. Follow-up is difficult for them, and because they lack deep ties with telecommunications carriers, they can’t handle complex adjustments.

We can provide fair and neutral comparative proposals backed by strong relationships with carriers. Above all, we have an environment where members who transferred straight from an on-site workplace are able to contribute right from the start.

Sugihara:
So then, the environment for your members was also part of your consideration when launching that new business.

Kato:
Yes, and in fact, we had an underlying goal there as well. Operations for mobile phone stores are naturally focused on weekends, but a BtoB business allows us to create a work environment focused on weekdays.

As members progress in their careers, they can acquire higher expertise and provide more to our clients and our company itself. By digging deep into the BtoB domain, I wanted to expand the options my colleagues would have in the future.

Sugihara:
Was the transition from store-based BtoC sales to corporate BtoB sales a big obstacle for your members?

Kato:
That is still an area of great struggle for us, even today, and we are in a constant process of trial and error. The sales styles and required knowledge are completely different, so that wall was even higher than I imagined.

The vast majority of Faithful’s members are transfers from within our group. The nature of starting out this way is different compared to an organization built from the ground up by recruiting specifically for BtoB sales. So, the question of how to transform the customer service skills cultivated in stores into the ability to solve corporate problems remains an unending battle and challenge for our company.

~To be continued in Part 2~

Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara.

D-POPS GROUP Co., Ltd.

Managing Director, Operating Officer, and Corporate Planning Head Takahiro Kato

Faithful Corporation

Company Co-President: Takahiro Kato
Address: 32F Shibuya Hikarie Building, 2-21-1 Shibuya, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo

Next, in the latter part of the interview, we discuss:

・Keeping busy as the Head of M&A
・The importance of people for D-POPS GROUP’s style of M&A
・The “flow of energy” that President Goto values
・“Realizing a Venture Ecosystem
・5-year vision
・And other topics

Be sure to check it out here:
https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/kato-interview-latter-part/

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After working at Mitsubishi Corporation and obtaining a MBA from Harvard, he worked as a director at a US venture capital firm. After returning to Japan, he founded LocationValue Co., Ltd., and sold it to NTT DOCOMO. After serving as the managing director for Android at Google, he founded Smartround Inc. in 2018. In 2022, he established the Startup Association of Japan and became its Representative Director. He works on developing Japan’s startup ecosystem, and was even involved in the compilation of the “Startup Development Five-year Plan”. Startup Association of Japan: https://www.startup-kyokai.org/ Smartround Inc.: https://jp.smartround.com/corporate ◆“There Were Almost No Entrepreneurs”: A Strange Advisory Committee Led to the Establishment of an Organization Sugihara: First, could you tell us the background of how you established this Startup Association four years ago in February 2022? Sunagawa: Originally, before joining Google, I was running a startup called “LocationValue”, and before that, I worked at an independent VC (venture capital) firm in the US, so I have been involved with startups in various positions. When I came back to Japan and was managing a startup, there were many times when I thought that entrepreneurship here looked strange. The current Companies Act was enacted in 2006, so when I started my company in 2005, companies at that time had to follow the old commercial code. The law itself was written in katakana and was very hard to read, and moreover, the concept of preferred stock like we have now was not established. Therefore, we had no choice but to receive investment from VC through ordinary shares, and to avoid that associated risks, buyback clauses had to be included. Although the Companies Act was enacted in 2006, it was around 2010 when preferred stock started to be used in earnest. I am one of the rare individuals who have experienced business management both from before and after that transition period. Because of my background, a person named Ishii, who was a director at the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry at the time, reached out to me at some point in 2019 or 2020. Director Ishii said, “You seem to know a lot about the contents of investment contracts, so would you join our advisory committee?” However, when I went there, virtually everyone was from academia or VC, and there were almost no entrepreneurs. I thought, “Even though we are discussing startup investment contracts, why are there so few people here who are actually from a startup?” The investing side and the side receiving the investment have conflicting interests. For example, at the time of an M&A, it always becomes a talk about who takes more, so an investment contract is a very delicate thing. 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The situation was beginning to settle down from the 2018 hiring season. My failure was not being able to transition from an individual player to a business manager. Sugihara: Culture fit and designing an evaluation system really are important. The 10 core values and credo displayed at the entrance to your office are all very easy to relate to. Were they made around that time? Nakashima: Yes, but a lot of them have changed since then. We set a management theme for the company every year. Last year’s theme was “Think Positively About the Future”, and the year before that was “One Team”. Many of those yearly themes are added to our credo. ◆100+ Employees: Transmitting Corporate Culture and Training the Next Generation of Executives Sugihara: I heard that 18 employees joined you this April, bringing the total number of your employees to over 100. When companies reach this scale, I think problems will start to appear with passing on corporate culture and maintaining a high speed. What are you doing to prevent those? Nakashima: Just as we were approaching 100 employees, we changed our management hierarchy from three levels to four levels. What I’m doing now is to hold training sessions every month to bring up our next generation of executives. I think that if the culture does not permeate well, the company mindset will eventually slow down. Therefore, I am training about 15 prospective managers on my corporate management philosophies. Sugihara: Do all the employees have opportunities to gather together? Nakashima: We have an award ceremony every month. The flow is a small award ceremony once a month, a big award ceremony once a quarter, and an even bigger award ceremony for the whole year. We hold the monthly award ceremony in this office, and then have a social gathering together afterwards. Sugihara: You reward employees with various types of jobs, right? Not just sales results? Nakashima: Yes, everyone has a chance to win an award. ◆Corporate Values of Honesty, Respect, and Challenge Sugihara: Your website lists ‘honesty’, ‘respect’, and ‘challenge’ as your corporate values. This is extremely similar to the D-POPS GROUP’s value of “Grow and learn together through sincerity, humility, and gratitude.” Please let us know your thoughts or impressions regarding this similarity. Nakashima: Since we have the vision of “creating a society that looks forward to tomorrow’s work,” we want to be a company that places our highest priority on achieving that vision. I want our employees to face their work seriously and enjoy it, and the things that are important for that are honesty, respect, and challenge. After all, if people don’t personally grow through their work, they won’t enjoy it. And in order to grow, they need honesty and humility, and they have to challenge themselves. Also, it is important from the company side to provide a place to take on challenges. Also, when it comes to respect, our company spans many areas like engineering, marketing, sales, customer success, and administration, which means horizontal collaboration is very important. So, we place great importance on giving each other proper respect. We decided on these three values with the sense that we are all working as a team. Sugihara: Listening to you speak made me feel that you are full of honesty and sincerity, and I think that value is communicated to your employees as well. Nakashima: Over the past three years, about 30 employees have joined as new graduates, and only one of them has quit. Sugihara: That is wonderful! Is there anything unique about your hiring criteria? Nakashima: I wouldn’t really call it a hiring criterion, but anyway, the biggest thing is to be teachable and open-minded. No matter how high their skills are and how well they can work, being teachable is the most important thing. ◆The Future of Humanoids Experienced at CES Sugihara: By the way, I heard that you visited CES at the beginning of the year as an observer. What global trends impressed you or caught your attention? Nakashima: Definitely the humanoids presented by Chinese companies. I felt firsthand that when AI is combined on top of robots, the world will change. There were also dog-shaped robots, and they could run amazingly fast. Since they are equipped with sensors and AI, it was too easy to picture them holding guns and being used for war. It is scary to imagine, but I figured this really is what the future might look like. In a broader sense, I could also see humanoids coming into play within the human resources industry. Many of our clients hire blue-collar workers, so in the current labor shortage, it seems like a business that proposes “What about using humanoids instead?” is not out of the question, so I plan to look more into that possibility. Sugihara: I heard you were accompanying D-POPS GROUP’s Chairman Semmoto and President Goto on that trip to CES. I also heard that you played golf with Chairman Semmoto after returning to Japan. What kind of impressions did you have through your interactions with these two veteran business managers? Nakashima: Chairman Semmoto’s words, “Anyway, do something unimaginably huge that benefits society,” really resonated inside me. Also, every time we meet, he asks, “How many years since you founded? What are your sales? How many employees?” and when I answer, he says, “No good at all, huh.” Every time that happens, I feel frustrated, but it always energizes me, too. On the other hand, there are times when he compliments me, saying, “That’s great!” and each time, I feel like working hard again. ◆The Reason for Receiving Investment from D-POPS GROUP Sugihara: For HR Cloud, which is looking to go public in the future, I guess there were many companies interested in investing. Why is it you chose to receive D-POPS GROUP’s investment, and is there anything that makes you particularly glad you received it? Nakashima: There are many. First, the reason I asked him was that President Goto had been supporting me since before I started my company. At the time of founding, my first business was a recruitment agency. President Goto asked me, “How much do you charge to find one person?” When I answered, “It is 800,000 yen,” he replied, “Well then, I’ll ask you to find us five people.” Things at that point were difficult, and money wasn’t circulating at all, so receiving 4 million yen really helped me run the business. And even now, I receive business management advice from President Goto one or two times a year. The advice I receive at those times always deeply touches my heart, and I have a huge debt of gratitude for how many times he helped me. I asked President Goto to invest in my company out of a desire to return that favor. Sugihara: So, it was an investment to return a favor, just as I hear from President Goto sometimes. Nakashima: That’s exactly what it was. I asked him because I wanted to pay him back for all he’s given me. We have not been able to go public yet, so I have not returned the favor completely, but I think I can if HR Cloud keeps growing well and goes public someday. ◆Identifying with the Venture Ecosystem: “I Want to Make Japan Stronger” Sugihara: D-POPS GROUP’s aim is “realizing a Venture Ecosystem”. Do you identify with any part of that? Nakashima: At the very basis of who I am is a desire to “make Japan stronger”. The reason is because I often heard stories about the war from my grandfather, and my grandfather’s younger brother was in a special attack unit, and I had the chance to read his diary that he kept from that time. That impression has stayed strong in my memory, so I definitely want to make Japan stronger. Because I want to make Japan stronger—and this is our thinking behind creating people who look forward to their jobs—that probably connects to this. In the end, I think startups will change Japan, so our Venture Ecosystem, which provides foundational support for these efforts, is something I totally believe in as a means of strengthening Japan. Sugihara: Chairman Semmoto often says this, too, but it is startups that have made Japan big up until now, isn’t it? It is really true that making startups strong and supporting them will certainly lead to making Japan stronger. ◆5-Year Vision: “10,000 Companies” and “Utilization of Big Data” Sugihara: Could you tell us about any new features or services you are preparing to accelerate growth further in the future? Where do you aim to be in 5 years? Nakashima: In five years, I want the number of companies using our system to exceed 10,000, and I want to develop a business that utilizes the big data we get from those 10,000 corporate clients. Because our recruitment platform is being used by 1,800 companies, a considerable amount of data is gathering, and I always get excited about developing an AI business which can put that data to even better use. I think we’re still lacking in the area of human resources necessary for us to get there, so I want to train our employees more thoroughly and create a company with an organizational culture and flexibility that are both strong. Sugihara: So then, your move to this office here in Kioicho last October was a step towards that vision, wasn’t it? Nakashima: The deciding factor for that move was our intention to increase loyalty, both inside and outside the company. Loyalty with customers, and loyalty with our own members. We hold social gatherings and user meetings here, and just last Friday, we invited a sushi chef and held a welcome party for our newly-joined employees. ◆A Message to Our Readers Sugihara: Finally, could you give a message to our readers? Nakashima: It is true for my management life as well, but I think I really could not do it by the power of one person alone. I have only been able to continue running this company until now thanks to the support of many people. We are still a small company, but we have been blessed with various close partners, so I think it is important to rely on what they have to offer, and to form more connections like those. And I think the Venture Ecosystem plays a part in that. I think it’ll be easier to grow if we can make good use of the opportunities we have there. Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara. HR Cloud Co., Ltd. Representative: President and CEO Yuki Nakashima Address: 7F Kioicho Park Bldg., 3-6 Kioicho, Chiyoda, Tokyo Established: April 2014 Website: https://hr-cloud.co.jp/
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2026.06.26
[Founder Interview #5] Yuki Nakashima (HR Cloud) – Part 2
Reducing HR Workload by 80%: Solving the Three Major Recruiting Problems of Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises In Part 1, we heard why President Nakashima decided to become an entrepreneur, and the details of his journey to starting a company at age 27. In Part 2, we bring you the inside story behind the creation and surprising features of our main service, “Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager”, which innovates recruitment through DX (digital transformation). We also learn about the growth strategy that turned the COVID-19 pandemic into a tailwind for HR Cloud, and being at the forefront of AI utilization. ◆Creating a Service to Solve the Three Major Recruiting Problems of Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises Sugihara: You have a mission to become a platform provider in the human resources industry. Specifically, what kind of products do you offer, and for what kind of customers? Nakashima: At this point, we’re providing an AI recruiting agent service for small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) that want to hire five or more new graduates. SMEs have three main issues when it comes to recruitment: they cannot attract enough applicants, prospective candidates decline their offers, and they do not have enough dedicated staff. When I was working in sales at Rakuten and Gakujo, every time I talked with owners and HR managers of various SMEs, they all shared these same problems. There were almost no services in the world that could solve these problems directly. Therefore, we started with a recruitment agency business first, and that led to where we are today. Sugihara: So, in addition to recruitment agency services, you were also providing a service where robots and AI automate recruiting tasks. ◆Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager — A System that Reduces HR Work by 80% Sugihara: Could you tell us again about your main service, Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager? Nakashima: In most companies, HR staff manage recruitment using Excel or spreadsheets. They attract applicants using various platforms like Mynavi, Rikunabi, OfferBox, and other recruitment agencies, as I’m sure you know. They copy the gathered applicant information into an Excel spreadsheet, where they manage thousands of people; checking whether an invitation to an information session was sent, whether someone attended it, collecting questionnaires, sending invitations for the first selection phase…it takes a lot of effort and is very complicated. To make matters worse, they have to send emails or make phone calls to each person individually. After an interview evaluation, they have to ask the interviewer how it went, which creates back-and-forth communication. Recently, many interviews are held online, so once the interview schedule is confirmed, they have to issue and send an online URL...they have to do things like this for thousands of people. Sugihara: True, when you list it like that, it seems like a lot. How do you automate it? Nakashima: First, our system can be managed on the cloud, and it has strong automation features. Once applicant information is added to the interface, Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager automatically registers each applicant. Once registered, applicants are automatically invited to the information session. Furthermore, applicants receive that invitation on the LINE messaging app, so they can make a reservation by just tapping the LINE message. When they make a reservation, they receive detailed information about the session, and an online URL is also automatically issued. After the information session ends, the participants receive a questionnaire. On that questionnaire, if students press the button that indicates they want to proceed to the next selection phase, then the next selection invitation is also sent to their LINE. Students complete their reservation for the next selection phase on LINE, and the online URL is sent automatically. It is a system where everything runs without the HR staff doing anything. In fact, this service reduces HR work by 80%. For example, we interviewed one of our clients, BOLD INC., and they recruit 300 new graduates a year with only a single HR staff member. ☆Customer Success Story: BOLD INC. https://www.career-cloud.asia/lp/interview/bold (webpage in Japanese only) You could say that if they recruit 300 people, they must have around 1,000 applicants. That kind of scale would normally be impossible for one HR person. We also use this same service for our own mid-career hiring, and we hire 20 people a year with zero dedicated HR staff. However, there are some things that only HR personnel can do. Interviews and casual meetings are tasks that require a human touch. We built Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager with the hope that as it manages all of the other aspects through automatic processes, HR staff can focus on the tasks that only people can do. The above image depicts the various processes Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager takes care of automatically, from building an applicant pool and managing candidates to tracking the status of selection and follow-ups. ◆Why the Name “Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager” Sugihara: Speaking of which, you gave this service a great name! Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager emphasizes the “Mr. Manager” part, and your commercials also give off a highly-approachable impression. What kind of intention is behind this? Nakashima: Thanks! Large companies can use a cool name with foreign loan words, spend a lot of money on advertising, and then the general public will eventually catch onto the name…but we can’t possibly spend that much money. Therefore, I thought it was important that people can understand what the service does just by hearing it once, and that way, it can get popular organically. When people hear “Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager”, they can grasp that it’s an all-inclusive, recruitment management system. When the HR staff of various companies are talking with each other and they ask, “What system are you using?” Our clients can immediately answer, “We use Mr. Manager.” If our service’s name had a bunch of loan words, they might say, “Ahh, what was it called, again…?” (Translation note: this service’s original Japanese name is 採用一括かんりくん.) Sugihara: That’s a good point, now that you mention it. Was this your idea, President Nakashima? Nakashima: I have a close surfing buddy who is a senior business owner, and he does a lot for me. I often ask him questions about business management. When I was launching this service, I asked him, “What would be a good name for this service?” He responded, “How about something like, ‘Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager’?” He also gave me some valuable advice about my company’s name. It was originally “Roots”, but he advised me, “With a name like that, people won’t get what your company does, so why don’t you change it to something like ‘HR Cloud’?” Sugihara: I think you’re surrounded by wonderful senior business owners like that precisely because you have such a teachable personality. The fact that you immediately adopted his naming suggestions proves it beyond a doubt. ◆The COVID-19 Pandemic as a Turning Point — A Crucial Decision that Caught the Tailwind Sugihara: The number of active accounts for Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager has surpassed 1,800 companies. Were there any pivotal moments in reaching this point? Nakashima: First of all, the COVID era was a big one. Up until the pandemic, our service had only grown to about 100 companies. We were not putting much strength into sales, and at that time, we were still focusing on our recruitment agency business, so it pretty much stayed at around 100 companies. Then in 2020, when COVID-19 started spreading, companies reduced their hiring at first, but after that, they realized they still needed to hire, so hiring started to move again. The number of companies doing remote hiring began to increase because of the pandemic. When that happened, they realized they needed to manage recruitment on the cloud to do remote hiring. They started looking for a recruitment management system, and suddenly Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager started to get more and more inquiries. At that time, we saw our chance, so we hired a well-known actor to do commercials for us. That’s basically how it went, but there is also a background story. Actually, while doing the recruitment agency business, we had also been investing in our Mr. Manager system for a long time, so we were 200 million yen in debt. Then, just as we were in such a critical situation, COVID-19 came, and our sales from the recruitment agency business were cut in half. Things looked pretty bad. At that time, we were able to get a 200 million yen loan through the government’s safety net program. Then, inquiries for Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager started to increase, and I thought, “You know what, let’s bet big on this!”, and we put all of the borrowed 200 million yen towards advertising. For me, it was the biggest gamble of my life. In one year, the number of corporate buyers increased by about 300 all at once, and from there, it has now become 1,800 companies. We also placed advertisements on NewsPicks, and we’re running commercials again. In the past few months, companies are adopting this service at double the pace compared to last year. ◆The Forefront of AI Utilization — Recruiting DX Utilizing ChatGPT and Claude Sugihara: Since last year, you’ve been releasing multiple AI features. “AI Scout” for discovering potential candidates and “Attract AI” for following up with candidates. Is this part of a clear strategy? Nakashima: Oh, yes. It’s about eliminating HR tasks and turning them into hiring results. When we thought about what is necessary to solve the three main problems I mentioned earlier, we realized we must automate HR tasks, which are simply too numerous, using AI and robots. Also, regarding the problem of candidates declining offers, in the first place, HR staff should share proper feedback from interviews along with a warm, caring invitation to the next selection phase. However, most HR staff are too busy, so they cannot easily do it. AI replaces that. We developed this service by focusing on reducing HR work and raising applicants’ interest levels. Sugihara: Were you thinking about this before GenAI was really booming? Nakashima: In terms of RPA (Robotic Process Automation), our system was already one step ahead of other companies. We had many robot functions for automation. However, we had not started on AI at all. Technically, Mr. All-in-One Recruiting Manager sends data to Claude (Anthropic) or ChatGPT in prompt form, and displays the results. The core of this service is that we design those prompts ourselves, and we have the know-how to automatically generate warm messages specialized to lower the rate at which candidates reject offers. ~To be continued in Part 3~ Interview conducted by D-POPS GROUP’s advisor Genta Sugihara. HR Cloud Co., Ltd. Representative: President and CEO Yuki Nakashima Address: 7F Kioicho Park Bldg., 3-6 Kioicho, Chiyoda, Tokyo Established: April 2014 Website: https://hr-cloud.co.jp/ Finally, in the third part of the interview, we discuss: ・Crisis and growth opportunities from creating organizational structure ・Experiencing the future at CES ・Relationship with D-POPS GROUP ・Similarities with a Venture Ecosystem ・And other topics Be sure to check it out here: https://d-pops-group.co.jp/en/column/hrcloud-part3/
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2026.06.18
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